From eyeonus@gmail.com Wed Mar 03 15:42:16 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com ([74.125.82.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmyCg-0006Ku-0t for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:42:15 -0800 Received: by wyb39 with SMTP id 39so1134130wyb.40 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:42:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Iiz7b1T99/nKanznHfunn6uxuwjkfynEE3uVDrtASfs=; b=ZOPOSxizYEhLM5udZyOsCDWYQbAzkclBGI+kLPxle9KDWaaTQA5yCPgyVv0nGZIfAm o5d74MTvJDzx3QKileuCLJ+8J92nL4uWs0dJM5+MYMgsEq0x6QLjcAe+M592qt8uf0KK 9lz4Rhn5IibL/0oWHKmHPvURxzFtXlOPMmW6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hiRRdBIRzAUSOVlYqWTNiJVvfYkFYvPQ0FKd0TZouGATbZdN1TG/JUn9KPNtq68Jg8 i0KVv3D5t1qrn3NU+Q97q1gWjymtb/CK8lahzP1WuDHg+Eo9GxKRxCCBg43rONViQRDt YKCHvt1PtweqnOeE4B5xTeZRDbAq2W6NFAxoc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.138 with SMTP id c10mr1582120wef.47.1267659723511; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:42:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100303231533.GD1159@digitalkingdom.org> References: <33739.83087.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100302194118.GH1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003021251n1f442ec7nb9f5fb0bb8a13c23@mail.gmail.com> <20100302214224.GI1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003030640x2a4e76ap37aaa4cb16c8e01@mail.gmail.com> <20100303183542.GV1159@digitalkingdom.org> <20100303192554.GW1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003031507m69deb676hda83197b8bc5e9ea@mail.gmail.com> <20100303231533.GD1159@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003031542x6ea93681g5593f3031eff037e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lindar is very nice to volunteer! (was Re: Re: smart.fm and fooling text-to-speech) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2dbb841adc0480ee07f9 --0016e6db2dbb841adc0480ee07f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:07:26PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I have the jbofihe data. =EF=BF=BDIt has everything we need to > > automatically generate short versions of all the gismu > > places, and IMO all the stuff we need for the full gismu > > stuff as well. > > > > Robin, have you even looked at the Google doc to which I > > consistently refer? > > Yes, several times. It is huge and confusing and I don't like it > (sorry), but I have looked at it. > > Admittedly, it is huge. But I don't see how it's confusing, unless you aren't used to looking at spreadsheets. On the items page, the only important columns are the rightmost 4, the others are (practically) pointless, except for keeping track of things. > Apparently I didn't look carefully enough. > > > All that has already been done. Column 'J' of page 'items' of > > document [3]tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu has the jbofi'e phrases for > > all of the sumti-fied gismu, and the official definition from the > > gismu list for the plain gismu. What's needed is for {lo prenu} to > > go through the list and make the definitions, for lack of a better > > phrase, more humanly understandable. > > Why? Just crop out anything in square brackets and they're fine. > > Not really. I've shown an example of one instance where it isn't fine in the other thread. > -Robin > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6db2dbb841adc0480ee07f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Robin Lee Powell= <rlpow= ell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:07:26PM -0700, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have the jbofihe data. =EF=BF=BDIt has everythin= g we need to
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0automatically generate short versions of all the g= ismu
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0places, and IMO all the stuff we need for the full= gismu
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0stuff as well.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Robin, have you even looked at the Google doc to which I<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0consistently refer?

Yes, several times. =C2=A0It is huge and confusing and I don't li= ke it
(sorry), but I have looked at it.

Admittedly, it is huge. But I don't see how it= 9;s confusing, unless you aren't used to looking at spreadsheets. On th= e items page, the only important columns are the rightmost 4, the others ar= e (practically) pointless, except for keeping track of things.
=C2=A0
Apparently I didn't look carefully enough.

> All that has already been done. Column 'J' of page 'items&= #39; of
> document [3]tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu has the jbofi'e phrases for
> all of the sumti-fied gismu, and the official defini= tion from the
> gismu list for the plain gismu. What's needed is for {lo prenu} to=
> go through the list and make the definitions, for lack of a better
> phrase, more humanly understandable.

Why? =C2=A0Just crop out anything in square brackets and they're = fine.

Not rea= lly. I've shown an example of one instance where it isn't fine in t= he other thread.
=C2=A0
-Robin

--
They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapon= s."
And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does it even occur to you to try fo= r something
other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See http://shrunklink.com/cdi= z
http= ://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/


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