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From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: <4BAF7446.6070008@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:26:41 +0100 Message-Id: <6053DB40-92FF-402B-AEE0-78CE947F9D9E@gmail.com> References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <925d17561003280714y30d5eb1fo19b9f97eb6902eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF7446.6070008@gmail.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.everson@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.everson@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: michael.everson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/851f12e9ca15eec1 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28 Mar 2010, at 16:22, And Rosta wrote: > IMO /./ is a phoneme whose primary allophone is [?]. That does not imply = owt about how it shd be rendered graphologically or typographically, tho. Jonathan wrote {la.parIs.} but it would seem to me to be unlikely that this= represents [la=CA=94pa=CB=88ris=CA=94] with a glottal stop before the [p] = and after the [s].=20 >>> I would appreciate it if anyone who *is* interested in this would say s= o, as I'd like to discuss the options regarding redundant markup of quoted = material. >>=20 >> I'm interested. >=20 > I'm interested too, and in the general question of how to reconcile the h= ighly evolved traditions of roman typography with Lojban. Splendid. I'm sure that this will be a good Gedankenexperiment as well, in = terms of questions of orthography design and so on. > But it's probably realistic to recognize that most Lojbanists have no int= erest in such reconciliation, and would wish for the typography to be wholl= y subjugated to prevailing Lojban conventions. That's OK.=20 Michael --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.