From 3CK6vSwgSBrEicgfnVccUZXZkRcbZeXUfd.fiXcfaSReXffXcVXiflgj.Tfd@groups.bounces.google.com Sun Mar 28 12:29:41 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3CK6vSwgSBrEicgfnVccUZXZkRcbZeXUfd.fiXcfaSReXffXcVXiflgj.Tfd@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NvyAw-0003It-Tv for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:40 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf3087374pwi.16 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=9gKR3WXAApsfJPNTWSB22qjuQU/A1WD81N75z7quzXk=; b=yxzNRPiSDhc5zW+CF74lnx9kQUkbqXUInAsCfU14dlgQO8pRN45k5t6WgRm5crpbVj PDaMYVhWcr1czMLAJvg9cIwWOvMGr2bY6vb3HgQxF2Y82GS99Tn6vK8fk1keDYQVbX62 vd08qjvm6//Gz+mvOjtBX+cNu1SKZVInVocDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=3LAXPVfvsBligON/E9c6heX4Y47wQ/kt76A3MdjuZqZOBkJwz9oVJsHqSqiovlM5pA KBQWy2sbqIPxbLbtqm7kq5yW//g0vrGpeOPZFMrtensESa9hYkTPXe4f/cdAxvinlP+z lzJQi54wd8l/D45GyPoXj/Or9vsgwe8mJQWk4= Received: by 10.142.247.2 with SMTP id u2mr95796wfh.4.1269804552663; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.250.36 with SMTP id x36ls1348343wfh.2.p; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.119.40 with SMTP id r40mr665137wfc.19.1269804551564; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.119.40 with SMTP id r40mr665136wfc.19.1269804551539; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si845228pzk.11.2010.03.28.12.29.11; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.10; Received: (qmail 7325 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2010 19:29:11 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2010 19:29:11 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NvyAY-0003HL-1C; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:29:10 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: And Rosta Cc: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. Message-ID: <20100328192909.GG6600@digitalkingdom.org> References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <925d17561003280714y30d5eb1fo19b9f97eb6902eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF7446.6070008@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BAF7446.6070008@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/cf6c9d490364ffb4 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 04:22:46PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > >>I would appreciate it if anyone who *is* interested in this > >>would say so, as I'd like to discuss the options regarding > >>redundant markup of quoted material. > > > >I'm interested. > > I'm interested too, and in the general question of how to > reconcile the highly evolved traditions of roman typography with > Lojban. But it's probably realistic to recognize that most > Lojbanists have no interest in such reconciliation, and would wish > for the typography to be wholly subjugated to prevailing Lojban > conventions. I'll speak up (briefly, since it wasn't requested) for that side: I won't buy a book claiming to be Lojban that uses seriously non-Lojban-standard typographic conventions, and I will decry it to anyone who asks. There is an exception, however: I care very little about how stress is indicated. Stress marking (specifically between using caps or using an accent mark) has been a long-standing point of largely non-acrimonious discussion; as far as I can tell, that's an issue on which the community is somewhat divided, but no-one really cares all that much. Contrast this with using captials to mark the beginning of sentences or proper names which, as And says, is very much not-OK to most Lojbanists. -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.