From 3UK6vSwgSBvksmqpxfmmejhjubmljohepn.pshmpkcbohpphmfhspvqt.dpn@groups.bounces.google.com Sun Mar 28 12:30:52 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f145.google.com ([209.85.222.145]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3UK6vSwgSBvksmqpxfmmejhjubmljohepn.pshmpkcbohpphmfhspvqt.dpn@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NvyC6-0003Vk-Lf for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:51 -0700 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9sf1556659pzk.28 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ClPw+baFUxz/ah8iysPq4KDP8QvaV/7hysq+ETI8W9E=; b=gyrbZg4n9WM8XqAa9qTTGHRgYEg4+V7+KfN7QeDTUiGRiYas1gV3l4mCsQnhepMni5 8v+PDtRhSSCB2LS5ZYSy0Luf1WF0ogS+/kIAXNE7QFPUQ0A1oEUepChKYDWxKsFBAYCp ZUnq52+zvsM3E20ZnKVyShj+Cxz0HszDO3I/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=XkvhVwM592ROPF9PkSs+3ZHOlno461aIxO/JY8cpJ+FNL5seeWPeZBpIf76vMAxdLn +76yGuBXd9xT6m78UQn/tyjONhMb+9AaJ64nV0YnX5JzL2iSqAb6GDIW4qxihfeY2VWp NSA1VqcyLmtpDw6ZV0hRaDUuS8+pbFsHY8ny8= Received: by 10.142.248.16 with SMTP id v16mr96800wfh.14.1269804624827; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.250.36 with SMTP id x36ls1348537wfh.2.p; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.149.38 with SMTP id w38mr668748wfd.7.1269804623964; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.149.38 with SMTP id w38mr668747wfd.7.1269804623940; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si845469pzk.11.2010.03.28.12.30.23; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.4 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.4; Received: (qmail 4570 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2010 19:30:23 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2010 19:30:23 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NvyBj-0003SN-2p for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:23 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. Message-ID: <20100328193022.GH6600@digitalkingdom.org> References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <925d17561003280714y30d5eb1fo19b9f97eb6902eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF7446.6070008@gmail.com> <6053DB40-92FF-402B-AEE0-78CE947F9D9E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6053DB40-92FF-402B-AEE0-78CE947F9D9E@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.4 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/e2b6a3550a61e28c Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 08:26:41PM +0100, Michael Everson wrote: > On 28 Mar 2010, at 16:22, And Rosta wrote: >=20 > > IMO /./ is a phoneme whose primary allophone is [?]. That does > > not imply owt about how it shd be rendered graphologically or > > typographically, tho. >=20 > Jonathan wrote {la.parIs.} but it would seem to me to be unlikely > that this represents [la=CA=94pa=CB=88ris=CA=94] with a glottal stop befo= re the > [p] and after the [s].=20 Actually, that's *exactly* what it represents. Having learned a little bit about what our typograhpic conventions actually *mean* might result in less hostility. -Robin --=20 They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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