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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.144 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/5e8268fb486e42b6 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> >> i =ABlu uo =97sei la .alis. pensi=97 ba lo nu farlu tai ti kei mi na ba >> xanka le nu farlu fo le serti =A0.i =ABlu ua virnu =97sei le lanzu tu'a >> mi ba jinvi li'u=BB .i .u'o mi noda cusku va'o ji'asai le nu mi >> farlu fi le drudi be le zdani (tosa'a la'e di'u la'a jetnu toi) >> li'u=BB > > /me breaks out in hives. > > (having said that, I'm aware that this is largely an "I'm not used > to it" reaction; I could probably get over it if someone gave me a > good reason. =A0No-one has.) Long uninterrupted text truly is hard to read. A few =AB =BB, =97, ( ) strategically inserted here and there are perfectly kosher for Lojban (and nothing new in any case, it was standard practice in the ju'i lobypli journal). Using caps at the beginning of sentences doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, that basically amounts to replacing all ".i" with "I", it's not as if Lojban sentences offer a lot of variation in how they start (unless the idea was to capitalize the next word after ".i", that was not very clear to me). In a text with a lot of dialogue, having a clear visual of what is said by the characters and what is part of the background text is useful, and the lu li'u words are not salient enough for that and do tend to get lost in the middle of the text in long paragraphs. There's nothing wrong with some experimenting to get more effective typography. And one advantage of guillemets is they cannot be accused of being inspired by English. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.