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Message-ID: <20100329044403.GC23441@mercury.ccil.org> References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <925d17561003280714y30d5eb1fo19b9f97eb6902eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4BAF7446.6070008@gmail.com> <20100328192909.GG6600@digitalkingdom.org> <20100328211330.GP6600@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100328211330.GP6600@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: John Cowan X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cowan@ccil.org X-Original-Sender: cowan@ccil.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/b6d5a69bd51dec1f Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > I'm flexible about things that are not yet 100% formalized, or that > are specifically formalized as flexible, or where a good reason by > my standards exists; "capitalizing the whole syllable looks > ugly/like shouting" seems valid to me; "capitalize proper names > because that's how English does it" most *certainly* does not. Not just English, but essentially *every* language written in Latin, Greek, or Cyrillic, which amounts to a huge fraction of all the written languages on the planet. Also, FWIW, Loglan., which originally used upper/lower case as Lojban does. (Using the acute accent to mark stress is already optional-standard.) -- Samuel Johnson on playing the violin: John Cowan "Difficult do you call it, Sir? cowan@ccil.org I wish it were impossible." http://www.ccil.org/~cowan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.