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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/ae71ea92dbbfd5b1 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/26abffd8a02653ef Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58f7fab29640482f1152b --0016e6d58f7fab29640482f1152b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/3/28 Jorge Llamb=EDas > http://teddyb.org/robin/tiki-index.php?page=3DLojban:+You're+Doing+It+Wro= ng > After reading the Essay by Robin that Jorge pointed out in the {la.alis.} thread, I have to say that I like the proposal made therein. On the basis that many of us will be reading the essay now that we know of it's existence, and that most of us will like the idea, I move that we vote to correct minli as per goal #1 (internal consistency) of Robin's proposal. For those that are not aware: bunda x1 is x2 non-metric weight units in standard x3 with subunits x4 dekpu x1 is x2 non-metric volume units in standard x3 with subunits x4 gutci x1 is x2 non-metric short distance units in standard x3 with subunit= s x4 kramu x1 is x2 non-metric area units in standard x3 with subunits x4 minli x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units with subunits x3 in standar= d x4 In relation to the other non-metric measurement gismu, minli is te ve te (the x3 and x4 are reversed in respect to the others.) All in favour of changing the definition of minli from x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units* with subunits x3 **in standard x4* to *x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units in standard x3 with subunits x4* *?* * * And, continuing in the spirit of the proposal, does anyone else have an issue they feel needs to be addressed? --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e6d58f7fab29640482f1152b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2010/3/28 Jorge Llamb=EDas=A0&= lt;jjllambias@gmail.com>
http://teddyb.org/robi= n/tiki-index.php?page=3DLojban:+You're+Doing+It+Wrong

After reading the Essay by Robin that Jorge pointed out in t= he {la.alis.} =A0thread, I have to say that I like the proposal made therei= n. On the basis that many of us will be reading the essay now that we know = of it's existence, and that most of us will like the idea, I move that = we vote to correct minli as per goal #1 (internal consistency) of Robin'= ;s proposal.

For those that are not aware:
bunda x1 is x2 non= -metric weight units in standard x3 with subunits x4
dekpu x1 is x2 non-m= etric volume units in standard x3 with subunits x4
gutci=A0 <= /span>x1 is x2 non-metric short distance units in standard x3 with subunits= x4
kramu x1 is x2 non-metric area units in standard x3 with subunits x4
minli =A0 x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units with subunits x3 in standard x4=

In relation to the other non-metric measurement g= ismu, minli is te ve te (the x3 and x4 are reversed in respect to the other= s.)

All in favour of changing the definition of minli from<= /div>
x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units=A0with subunits x3=A0<= /b>in standard x4
to
x1 is x2 non-metric long distance u= nits= =A0in standard x3=A0with subunits x4=
= ?
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And, continuing in t= he spirit of the proposal, does anyone else have an issue they feel needs t= o be addressed?

--=A0
mu'o mi'e = .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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