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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:44:24 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 76.8.216.14 In-Reply-To: <702226df1003290711v11a9e957h537d99b637f40414@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Seth X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 31226-STANDARD Received: from 76.8.216.14 by Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com (205.188.108.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:44:24 -0400 Message-Id: <8CC9D763956E886-11C0-1F94C@Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: Thirderivative@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of Thirderivative@aol.com designates 64.12.206.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=Thirderivative@aol.com X-Original-Sender: thirderivative@aol.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/ae71ea92dbbfd5b1 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/b42e6d4192e41d5 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC9D763981C158_11C0_39C44_Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com" ----------MB_8CC9D763981C158_11C0_39C44_Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 aye -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 8:11 am Subject: Lojban: You're Doing it Worng (was: Re: [lojban] la .alis.) 2010/3/28 Jorge Llamb=EDas http://teddyb.org/robin/tiki-index.php?page=3DLojban:+You're+Doing+It+Wrong After reading the Essay by Robin that Jorge pointed out in the {la.alis.} = thread, I have to say that I like the proposal made therein. On the basis t= hat many of us will be reading the essay now that we know of it's existence= , and that most of us will like the idea, I move that we vote to correct mi= nli as per goal #1 (internal consistency) of Robin's proposal. For those that are not aware: bunda x1 is x2 non-metric weight units in standard x3 with subunits x4 dekpu x1 is x2 non-metric volume units in standard x3 with subunits x4 gutci x1 is x2 non-metric short distance units in standard x3 with subuni= ts x4 kramu x1 is x2 non-metric area units in standard x3 with subunits x4 minli x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units with subunits x3 in standar= d x4 In relation to the other non-metric measurement gismu, minli is te ve te (t= he x3 and x4 are reversed in respect to the others.) All in favour of changing the definition of minli from x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units with subunits x3 in standard x4 to x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units in standard x3 with subunits x4 ? And, continuing in the spirit of the proposal, does anyone else have an iss= ue they feel needs to be addressed? --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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-----= Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 8:11 am
Subject: Lojban: You're Doing it Worng (was: Re: [lojban] la .alis.)

2010/3/28 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com><= /span>
http://teddyb.org/robin/ti= ki-index.php?page=3DLojban:+You're+Doing+It+Wrong

After reading the Essay by Robin that Jorge pointed out in the {la.ali= s.}  thread, I have to say that I like the proposal made therein. On t= he basis that many of us will be reading the essay now that we know of it's= existence, and that most of us will like the idea, I move that we vote to = correct minli as per goal #1 (internal consistency) of Robin's proposal.

For those that are not aware:
bunda x1 is x2 non-metric weight units in standard x3 with subunits x4
dekpu x1 is x2 non-metric volume units in standard x3 with subunits x4
gutci  x1 is x2 non-metric short distance units in standard x3 with subu= nits x4
kramu x1 is x2 non-metric area units in standard x3 with subunits x4
minli   = x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units with subunits x3 in standard= x4

In relation to the other non-metric measurement gismu, minli is te ve = te (the x3 and x4 are reversed in respect to the others.)

All in favour of changing the definition of minli from
x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units with subunits x3 = in standard x4
to
x1 = is x2 non-metric long distance units in standard x3 with subunits x4=
= ?
=
And, continuing in the spirit of the proposal, does anyone else have a= n issue they feel needs to be addressed?

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
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