From 3o96wSwwJBn4ocvv.ocvvctpiockn.eqonqldcpiqqingitqwru.eqo@groups.bounces.google.com Mon Mar 29 10:09:18 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f160.google.com ([209.85.211.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3o96wSwwJBn4ocvv.ocvvctpiockn.eqonqldcpiqqingitqwru.eqo@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwISe-00038P-Ss for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:09:17 -0700 Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32sf8304283ywh.28 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MvwNDrK/ZyXICMfY6OF5thdnqPEsqgcNfUNvqztI/nM=; b=SWR9xuAZxGv149FMrD9wG78k2jao65+Y69UHoZ3HH8T5pGgHVNitAEBRHOYfLXoZGt ioXhvzfptH6REPc/T43QsKhHfbZm+OLI2Mb4MKXi0SCJJM+omjrpd5gtoLtctEZLYVpq YnJthpSUCGr9eiPRi+BFEbLMMFrXxy8qiUu74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rS1FkHfYCuMafr5e27VN6KE5wYhb9id+vbGQR/GqwpaAx6V1/nDh8RYoZcXU/SDNOI PKGbAQLktr84RI8AltsrgP1czV/4TKkj3z0cncRSdptGQTOs25hYgWEEnFJ5LI6ZBPXL n7ZJ0zofiNTq+FMCc6kb6zgWf25XNrhpmOfxw= Received: by 10.150.247.2 with SMTP id u2mr281689ybh.68.1269882531446; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.66.23 with SMTP id t23ls587823agk.6.p; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.150.2 with SMTP id c2mr122856ago.13.1269882530337; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.150.2 with SMTP id c2mr122853ago.13.1269882530195; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com (mail-gx0-f210.google.com [209.85.217.210]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si300952gxk.6.2010.03.29.10.08.49; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.210 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.210; Received: by mail-gx0-f210.google.com with SMTP id 2so4500347gxk.3 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.196.12 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <702226df1003291001i8467f64w78c30c6dbea0f1cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df1003290711v11a9e957h537d99b637f40414@mail.gmail.com> <20100329143528.GA3085@sdf.lonestar.org> <702226df1003290953j22b0fc4dg3e9ffc1460b88882@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003291001i8467f64w78c30c6dbea0f1cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:08:48 -0400 Received: by 10.101.129.24 with SMTP id g24mr2321798ann.195.1269882528991; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lojban: You're Doing it Worng (was: Re: [lojban] la .alis.) From: Matt Arnold To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=matt.mattarn@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/ae71ea92dbbfd5b1 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/cced4e943ef90ed3 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well sure, this is how "all jbopre" kind-of-sort-of turns into a rough analog for "BPFK members" in this plan. I just wanted to point out that step in the process. Mimiscience is technically correct, but you are also correct in that you can probably gain the authority you now lack. So this discussion is not a waste of time. -Eppcott On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Matt Arnold > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> >> I don't think you have the authority to overthrow the current >> >> authority. >> >> >> > >> > Never said I did. However,=A0assuming Robin's proposal is accepted, ba= sed >> > on >> > my reading of it, all jbopre is considered a member of the BPFK. As >> > such, I >> > am not trying to overthrow the current authority, but merely doing my >> > part >> > to get the job done. >> >> It doesn't say all jbopre, it says all LLG members. Offhand I don't=A0re= call >> whether you're in the Logical Language Group, but I certainly=A0encourag= e you >> (and all active jbopre) to pursue membership. > > My interpretation was from this line: "The BPFK should be open to anyone = who > is seriously working on learning the language (and, in fact, the BPFK sho= uld > be in Lojban as much as possible: this is for formal decisions about the > future of the language, by people who actually use it)." > >> >> -Eppcott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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