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To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <664037.78661.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 206.190.37.188 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/315593c8d10419a6 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > In the joy of contributing further to the going-on-60 year history of LoC= Can=20 > typography, y'all seem to have missed the basic point:=A0 someone is offe= ring=20 > to publish a work in Lojban on a real press for a real public, something = that=20 > comes to very few conlangs.=A0 Jump at the opportunity, for goodness=20 > sakes! As for the "changes" he is making in "Lojban typography", they=20 > fall well within the range of past approaches and have the rather clear= =20 > advantage of making texts more easily readable (although ease has never b= een a=20 > long LoCCan suit).=A0 If newbies end up using them, then rejoice in the= =20 > newbies and lead them by local example back to the true shining path (or,= =20 > possibly change to that way of doing tjings yourself).=A0 Don't jump all = over=20 > them for total trivia and watch them fade away. As a recent (maybe current) newbie, (perhaps you've forgotten what being=20 one was like), I would say that the last thing I need is the confusion that= would result=20 from having the only truly published work in Lojban printed in a modified o= r=20 alternative orthography. mu'o mi'e .totus. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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