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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/ae71ea92dbbfd5b1 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/5eb69eedb2a9b835 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65ae682346e690482f3dc9f --0016e65ae682346e690482f3dc9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Matt Arnold wrote: > Well sure, this is how "all jbopre" kind-of-sort-of turns into a rough > analog for "BPFK members" in this plan. I just wanted to point out > that step in the process. Mimiscience is technically correct, but you > are also correct in that you can probably gain the authority you now > lack. So this discussion is not a waste of time. > > I don't disagree that I do not now have such authority, I was merely stating that I am not trying to overthrow the current authority. So, what must I do to join the BPFK? > -Eppcott > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Matt Arnold > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Jonathan Jones > >> wrote: > >> >> I don't think you have the authority to overthrow the current > >> >> authority. > >> >> > >> > > >> > Never said I did. However, assuming Robin's proposal is accepted, > based > >> > on > >> > my reading of it, all jbopre is considered a member of the BPFK. As > >> > such, I > >> > am not trying to overthrow the current authority, but merely doing my > >> > part > >> > to get the job done. > >> > >> It doesn't say all jbopre, it says all LLG members. Offhand I > don't recall > >> whether you're in the Logical Language Group, but I certainly encourage > you > >> (and all active jbopre) to pursue membership. > > > > My interpretation was from this line: "The BPFK should be open to anyone > who > > is seriously working on learning the language (and, in fact, the BPFK > should > > be in Lojban as much as possible: this is for formal decisions about the > > future of the language, by people who actually use it)." > > > >> > >> -Eppcott > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "lojban" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@= gmail.com> wrote:
Well sure, this is how "all= jbopre" kind-of-sort-of turns into a rough
analog for "BPFK m= embers" in this plan. I just wanted to point out
that step in the process. Mimiscience is technically correct, but you
ar= e also correct in that you can probably gain the authority you now
lack.= So this discussion is not a waste of time.

I don't disagree that I do not now have such authority, I was mere= ly stating that I am not trying to overthrow the current authority.
=A0
So, what must I do to join the BPFK?
=A0
-Eppcott


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Jonathan Jones &= lt;eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Jonat= han Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>= ;
>> wrote:
>> >> I don't think you have the au= thority to overthrow the current
>> >> authority.
>> >>
>> >
>&= gt; > Never said I did. However,=A0assuming Robin's proposal is acce= pted, based
>> > on
>> > my reading of it, all jbop= re is considered a member of the BPFK. As
>> > such, I
>> > am not trying to overthrow the curre= nt authority, but merely doing my
>> > part
>> > to= get the job done.
>>
>> It doesn't say all jbopre, i= t says all LLG members. Offhand I don't=A0recall
>> whether you're in the Logical Language Group, but I certainly= =A0encourage you
>> (and all active jbopre) to pursue membership.<= br>>
> My interpretation was from this line: "The BPFK should= be open to anyone who
> is seriously working on learning the language (and, in fact, the BPFK = should
> be in Lojban as much as possible: this is for formal decisio= ns about the
> future of the language, by people who actually use it)= ."
>
>>
>> -Eppcott
>>
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>
>
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