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From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: <702226df1003291006o242c37a8q6bc5ea53b6e6377d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:00:46 +0100 Message-Id: References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <925d17561003280714y30d5eb1fo19b9f97eb6902eaa@mail.gmail.com> <5BD9338A-1033-49E9-9A75-49046469DE95@gmail.com> <702226df1003290731i3cbaeb3fs9db2d49a667273b1@mail.gmail.com> <44AE9DF1-8DD8-4134-895C-054AA27AE1EC@gmail.com> <702226df1003290810r9685560v7ef251bdfb421911@mail.gmail.com> <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <702226df1003291006o242c37a8q6bc5ea53b6e6377d@mail.gmail.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.everson@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.everson@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: michael.everson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d70946769840e58a Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 Mar 2010, at 18:06, Jonathan Jones wrote: > The thing is, typography and orthopgraphy are not the same thing. Ah, I was behind in my reading. Thank you for=20 > Lojban uses the Latin orthography, but it does not use the Latin typograp= hy. Well. What you mean is that writers who write Lojban use Latin, or Tengwar,= or Cyrillic orthography. (Lojban itself is a language, and languages don't= use anything.) As for your second point, I think that what you mean is that the standard L= ojban orthography tends to make use of the capitalization and punctuation c= ommon in Latin typography in a different way than other languages do.=20 Except of course that some people use acute vowels instead of capital vowel= s for anomalous stress, and some people use guillemets, and some people use= question marks and exclamation marks. At least that's what people are sayi= ng. But those are variations of Latin typographic conventions used to write= the language. Michael. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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