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From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: <702226df1003291109p6508ea18q8fd9cd68f593a70c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:20:53 +0100 Message-Id: References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <925d17561003280714y30d5eb1fo19b9f97eb6902eaa@mail.gmail.com> <5BD9338A-1033-49E9-9A75-49046469DE95@gmail.com> <702226df1003290731i3cbaeb3fs9db2d49a667273b1@mail.gmail.com> <44AE9DF1-8DD8-4134-895C-054AA27AE1EC@gmail.com> <702226df1003290810r9685560v7ef251bdfb421911@mail.gmail.com> <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <702226df1003291006o242c37a8q6bc5ea53b6e6377d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003291109p6508ea18q8fd9cd68f593a70c@mail.gmail.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.everson@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.everson@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: michael.everson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/f916d4fedb9062c9 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 Mar 2010, at 19:09, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Insofar as Lojban is concerned, {la.mari,=E1n.} and {la.mari,An.} are the= same thing. {la.mari,An.} is much more common, as "A" is easier to type. (= On standard U.S. keyboard, for instance, "A" is +a, "=E1" is +<= numpad 0,2,2,5>.) That would be pretty old software. US International keyboards have shipped = on the Windows platform for a very long time indeed. I use an Irish keyboar= d on the Mac OS, and for me, A is shift-a, and =E1 is alt-a, The US keyboar= d on the Mac has alt-e + a for =E1. And has for years and years. >> and some people use guillemets, > =20 > I've never seen that used in actual writing. Yes, well, I'm going to use them, and they're discussed on p. 67 of Nick an= d John's book. >> and some people use question marks and exclamation marks. > =20 > I've never seen that used in actual writing. They're discussed on p. 67 of Nick and John's book. >> At least that's what people are saying. > =20 > No, people are saying they *can* be. Not that they *are*. Well, fine. Then I *can* use them. :-) >> But those are variations of Latin typographic conventions used to write = the language. > =20 > Those are non-standard conventions, yes. They're discussed on p. 67 of Nick and John's book. Michael --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.