From 3OAuxSwcJBkAg0gqpwuiockn.eqonqldcpiqqingitqwru.eqo@groups.bounces.google.com Mon Mar 29 13:19:54 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3OAuxSwcJBkAg0gqpwuiockn.eqonqldcpiqqingitqwru.eqo@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwLQj-0001ss-Cy for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:50 -0700 Received: by gwb1 with SMTP id 1sf9071536gwb.16 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=erYu8rcRhM144EvYt8fJMr1X/ADIJIr42O5kn1cPspM=; b=cwcMLNMCweMZ6C4MR5Cp9vi84hseMLFJVN+ihLRDjllKtTipPG1pJIMQHtSLW+HsXW +os+v5bgiHRFZyeqbW0MCCD4hmJSD+hetZqXAIROjOuLeX8JcevLD65DaQROMlIrkKuh 9Mxnw514QhOShwkpFbW8q/VnqVTdBrgWrPxaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=GVYWlyMDxKWxYik6O8MvYCEANif3+1VkXqp5Hf6JIPbI6Qw2ot5bKKvbtGLocssJ/v 2kgT9KpLcAPTyyO5QGq2zqJSnQhKpUH8uNr75FTl9sAFBxso/lP4zpc2Dwua0XXicbc7 gsrmgRHCkxWJDDq74OwGpQ+Zx2slp6rlv6JyU= Received: by 10.150.188.6 with SMTP id l6mr304046ybf.37.1269893944199; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.35.68 with SMTP id o4ls2736168bkd.1.p; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.127.4 with SMTP id e4mr333067bks.9.1269893942825; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.127.4 with SMTP id e4mr333066bks.9.1269893942794; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v26si4489717bkt.7.2010.03.29.13.19.01; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.181; Received: by mail-wy0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 28so5482874wyf.26 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.2.209 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <702226df1003291006o242c37a8q6bc5ea53b6e6377d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003291109p6508ea18q8fd9cd68f593a70c@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003291146h66475c74off6625befee8fdf5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:19:01 -0600 Received: by 10.216.93.77 with SMTP id k55mr3233261wef.196.1269893941490; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <702226df1003291319s63636a59t68668f5a79e79d4b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/80e571e2c81d1d4b Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77e1248f4ee0482f639ad --0016e6d77e1248f4ee0482f639ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Doty wrote: > Wow, I guess I completely missed the point of this conversation and what > Michael was saying--which seems to be that he's going to do this however he > wants, never mind what anyone says, instead of trying to actually think > about this and present a solution that could be adopted by people in the > future. Is that a correct assessment? > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:03, Michael Everson wrote: >> >> Noooooooo, that's *orthography*. > > > I tried not to get involved in this, but.... I'm not sure why you're > drawing the line here, and saying that "G/a" is orthography and other > things, like capitalization, not. As far as I am concerned, Lojban > orthography/typography/typesetting conventions/etc. are basically half > done--the actual spelling of individual words is there, but the > clause/sentence/paragraph/quotation stuff is missing. > Orthography and typography are not the same thing. Check the definitions. 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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Dot= y <suomichris@= gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, I guess I completely missed= the point of this conversation and what Michael was saying--which seems to= be that he's going to do this however he wants, never mind what anyone= says, instead of trying to actually think about this and present a solutio= n that could be adopted by people in the future. =A0Is that a correct asses= sment?

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:03, Michael Everson <= span dir=3D"ltr"><michael.everson@gmail.com> wrote:=20
Noooooooo, that's *orthograp= hy*.

I tried not to get involved in this, but.... =A0I'm not sure why y= ou're drawing the line here, and saying that "G/a" is orthogr= aphy and other things, like capitalization, not. =A0As far as I am concerne= d, Lojban orthography/typography/typesetting conventions/etc. are basically= half done--the actual spelling of individual words is there, but the claus= e/sentence/paragraph/quotation stuff is missing.
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Orthography and typography are not the same thing. Check the definitio= ns. I posted them in this list a few missives ago.
=A0

Chris=A0

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