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From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:03:26 +0100 Message-Id: <48850684-BF8C-4CB2-9662-908E12CDDCEE@gmail.com> References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <702226df1003290810r9685560v7ef251bdfb421911@mail.gmail.com> <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <702226df1003291006o242c37a8q6bc5ea53b6e6377d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003291109p6508ea18q8fd9cd68f593a70c@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003291146h66475c74off6625befee8fdf5@mail.gmail.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.everson@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.everson@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: michael.everson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/ca375a1fc29d46df Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 Mar 2010, at 21:15, Christopher Doty wrote: >> Wow, I guess I completely missed the point of this conversation and what= Michael was saying--which seems to be that he's going to do this however h= e wants, never mind what anyone says, instead of trying to actually think a= bout this and present a solution that could be adopted by people in the fut= ure. Is that a correct assessment? >=20 > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:03, Michael Everson wrote: > Noooooooo, that's *orthography*. >=20 > I tried not to get involved in this, but.... I'm not sure why you're dra= wing the line here, and saying that "G/a" is orthography and other things, = like capitalization, not. Because you can have a text marked up with capitalization and punctuation, = and you can strip out all the caps and puncts and the basic text is essenti= ally the same.=20 Swgppina the letter a gnd g is gn orthoargphic trgnsformgtion, which is not= the sgme thina. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.