From 3vhWxSwoJBtAEGA84y3D4E28w47.yA87A5xw92AA2702DAGBE.yA8@groups.bounces.google.com Mon Mar 29 14:04:27 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f160.google.com ([209.85.211.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3vhWxSwoJBtAEGA84y3D4E28w47.yA87A5xw92AA2702DAGBE.yA8@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwM8E-0004z3-9a for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:04:27 -0700 Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32sf8504389ywh.28 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:04:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=b/t1dxi3EpL9P359L7Wtih6vcJQYg/saLDqBhVxC600=; b=Y19qVNggHfp3MHCUCSlBtAskmVY6/wabRmxc4sntfPTL5YIR6wHJEiNoJ/4JXS/8pi dCQYzh5ESai0KXq8i7EhUSndcQwILRjuClIVhwvV5y+WtGBOTa62t7KUeGJZAxFo0q/o NlwxM8UQLIFB3/4bNini7WgPDJ7ogKVKI9BjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=2R0AzptwhzoKEsZSoI1yCitgYPuTwKh0jjb5+5+PVgt0dVQxdaKkFONSz0wrYs9Qdu 30kXdqYm8g4+F50v3RLAER5GicD0bXTzEXOqotbCMaM/MblsW1Ho8WPEhEvX6a4z72Jh WwJJR1CT4SRcq2qwz5bEmNXHa5iB6fieL+Uns= Received: by 10.91.59.20 with SMTP id m20mr416331agk.40.1269896638257; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.66.23 with SMTP id t23ls622078agk.6.p; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.1.23 with SMTP id 23mr6437843aga.14.1269896637542; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.1.23 with SMTP id 23mr6437841aga.14.1269896637425; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si418037ywh.12.2010.03.29.14.03.56; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.54; Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so6340921gwj.41 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.133.20 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100329205514.GA24462@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <925d17561003280714y30d5eb1fo19b9f97eb6902eaa@mail.gmail.com> <5BD9338A-1033-49E9-9A75-49046469DE95@gmail.com> <20100329141713.GA29026@sdf.lonestar.org> <5715b9301003291055w30fb5313p8bd52a84f7fa1e6a@mail.gmail.com> <20100329205514.GA24462@sdf.lonestar.org> From: Christopher Doty Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:36 -0700 Received: by 10.101.165.17 with SMTP id s17mr5289612ano.244.1269896636120; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=suomichris@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: suomichris@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/bd49cceb0439ee39 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c07be5bee10482f6d911 --001636c5c07be5bee10482f6d911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually, I rather like that idea. (Although what I'd really prefer, as I do with any translated text, is a version with the original and translation side by side.) The issue still remains, though, that would be good to have a consensus on these kinds of issues that the CLL doesn't talk about (as far as I recall)--quotations: how to mark them in text, if at all, if they're indented/new paragraph, etc. Chris On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:55, Minimiscience wrote: > de'i li 29 pi'e 03 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. MorphemeAddict .fy. cusku zoi > skamyxatra. > > I would buy any book written in Lojban (assuming it's well translated, or > > that it's original text), regardless of the capitalization. But if it did > > use capitalization, as in the example, I'd grumble about it every time I > > picked up the book. > > > > We don't have enough books in Lojban to be picky about how they look. > .skamyxatra > > How's this for a compromise: Michael gets to publish *{la .alis.}* with > whatever typography he wants, and at the same time the LLG publishes *{la > .alis.}* with standard typography via lulu.com or some other vanity press. > The > number of published Lojban books increases by two, Michael gets to publish > it > as he likes, and the LLG combats his variant typography with a book that > newbies can point to or be pointed to. Or everyone tells me why this is a > horrible idea that should never be spoken of again. > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > va'o lonu da'i noda va bartu kei ma pu va savru > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --001636c5c07be5bee10482f6d911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, I rather like that idea. =A0(Although what I'd really prefer,= as I do with any translated text, is a version with the original and trans= lation side by side.)

The issue still remains, though, t= hat would be good to have a consensus on these kinds of issues that the CLL= doesn't talk about (as far as I recall)--quotations: how to mark them = in text, if at all, if they're indented/new paragraph, etc.

Chris

On Mon, Mar 29,= 2010 at 13:55, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com> wrote:
de'i li 29 pi'e 03 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. MorphemeAddict .fy. c= usku zoi skamyxatra.
> I would buy any book written in Lojban (assuming it&= #39;s well translated, or
> that it's original text), regardless of the capitalization. But if= it did
> use capitalization, as in the example, I'd grumble about it every = time I
> picked up the book.
>
> We don't have enough books in Lojban to be picky about how they lo= ok.
.skamyxatra

How's this for a compromise: Michael gets to publish *{la .alis.}* with=
whatever typography he wants, and at the same time the LLG publishes *{la .alis.}* with standard typography via lulu.com or some other vanity press. =A0The
number of published Lojban books increases by two, Michael gets to publish = it
as he likes, and the LLG combats his variant typography with a book that newbies can point to or be pointed to. =A0Or everyone tells me why this is = a
horrible idea that should never be spoken of again.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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