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To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <23298cb41003291406x5dc8a4faub2d8d21693f9c5fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 206.190.37.194 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/7bfde33fde8c5cf4 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1700604953-1269906668=:54710" --0-1700604953-1269906668=:54710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really admire those that have such a strong feeling that the current Lojb= an typography is the best one it could be ever be achieved but I'm sure tha= t there are many that, like me, would like to see lojban move forward rathe= r than stay in stagnation as it seems to be now. remod, are you seriously suggesting that a=A0competing orthography is the a= nswer to BPFK stagnation?=A0 The BPFK (surely by now a mythical creature)= =A0is unable to make any=A0decisions on important issues (now years old) li= ke xorlo, dotside, completing cmavo definitions, correcting the errors in C= LL etc.=A0 How exactly will a change in the orthography change things? totus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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I really admire those that have such a strong feeling tha= t the current Lojban typography is the best one it could be ever be achieve= d but I'm sure that there are many that, like me, would like to see lojban = move forward rather than stay in stagnation as it seems to be now.

r= emod, are you seriously suggesting that a competing orthography is the= answer to BPFK stagnation?  The BPFK (surely by now a mythical creatu= re) is unable to make any decisions on important issues (now year= s old) like xorlo, dotside, completing cmavo definitions, correcting the er= rors in CLL etc.  How exactly will a change in the orthography change = things?
 
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