From 30b-xSwMHBo4s915Dy.69y361ts5y66y3wy96C7A.u64@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 02:10:05 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f198.google.com ([209.85.217.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <30b-xSwMHBo4s915Dy.69y361ts5y66y3wy96C7A.u64@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwXSR-0000We-Ll for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:10:04 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf19539330gxk.4 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:09:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from :to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-nvg-mailscanner-information:x-nvg-mailscanner :x-mailscanner-from:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ROnq7aTLkB6i3C23d8mmmwWGk6OEa+05ndvv02xJZ6Q=; b=pOxWzhtbKkOGw7/usf9/fIr67pDpYfOLT36XBxAoKbGuO0UGhwQSi++CNFXlj5aIvK gdyBGPKTbzCnJJMhQBg2EJfrKxevSzwVspBOyHsvAJkuaKO8c0KFX1Pm51fMCGZFu78n sZwZnGR2+1zC4GRxfahkvg7XDqatRSfPEuDUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-nvg-mailscanner-information :x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=F3FfASTX3DRRucjp6XDzGCkguOZ322BZ2j3VeENnGkVUrlkqzblcHc0UwAxR9qG55D BPEc4wC4JoR1YA5q+VtqGfmBk5WpSEA+3J/RS1nBowfOTzbqd8jmBAelFainvxApBKQB OVsm0CmaMyNpin/NVD04m5GsCNxhnvdo4HRmg= Received: by 10.91.91.11 with SMTP id t11mr469868agl.58.1269940177685; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:09:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.87.56.31 with SMTP id i31ls626940fgk.1.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.87.13.20 with SMTP id q20mr450424fgi.26.1269940175325; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.25.72 with SMTP id y8mr576250ebb.2.1269939785291; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.25.72 with SMTP id y8mr576249ebb.2.1269939785155; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si279602ewy.14.2010.03.30.02.03.04; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=129.241.210.67; Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (unknown [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:2a0:c9ff:feab:76e2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423AA94783 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o2U92tHr022002 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:02:55 +0200 Received: (from arj@localhost) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id o2U92r6q022001 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:02:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:02:53 +0200 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. Message-ID: <20100330090253.GG3000@nvg.org> References: <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <702226df1003291006o242c37a8q6bc5ea53b6e6377d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003291109p6508ea18q8fd9cd68f593a70c@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003291146h66475c74off6625befee8fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <8EE07369-765A-49AB-AEC4-1DEC1A904C37@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8EE07369-765A-49AB-AEC4-1DEC1A904C37@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Original-Sender: arj@nvg.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/f549333e29e515 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 09:24:52AM +0100, Michael Everson wrote: > What I can't do is anticipate the reaction of the community at large to a= n edition of a book which treats Lojban like a real language rather than an= oddball. It is of course very good that you are trying to treat Lojban as a real lan= guage. But if treating it as a real language is your goal, why not respect = the conventions of casing and punctuation that has been adhered to in all s= erious writing for the past couple of decades? I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish by discussing this, si= nce you have evidently decided to ignore what we say anyway. --=20 Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ The names of a species, empire, language, homeworld, homestar and so on will all be self-evidently related; Ogrons come from Ogros, Arisians come from Arisia, Arcturans come from Arcturus, and Humans no doubt come from Humus. --Justin B. Rye in A Primer In SF Xenolinguistics --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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