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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.25 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/6ccf893500592a81 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > > What I'm suggesting is that either the BPFK takes some decision in moving > forward or stop bashing any attempts to try something different.=A0 The t= opic > of "writing lojban" is just one of the many. The BPFK has not bashed anything though. Indeed the BPFK officially has said very little so far in all of its existence, if anything at all, and that's as it should be. If it's going to be respected as an authoritative institution, it has to be careful with what it says. People posting to this list express their own personal opinions, nothing more and nothing less. > When I printed "lo nu binxo" > (http://picasaweb.google.it/rdentato/LoNuBinxo#5395156010337642754)=A0 fo= r > myself=A0 I tried to make the dots before "i" a little bit larger to have= some > more immediate visual hook it was surely not an elegant solution, I wish > there was some better solution. That looks nice though! >=A0 To me, Lojban is very interesting > but would still require work to appeal more people on the other hand it > seems that BPFK and LLG (it's really difficult to understand who is who a= nd > who does what) are only interested in preserve it in its current form. The BPFK and LLG are by and large the same people, just different functions. The BPFK deals with the linguistic aspect, the LLG deals with the business/organizational aspect of things. > Lojban needs more speakers/writers, because a language is measured by the > number of people can use it, otherwise is just a nice academic exercise. Yes, and indeed Lojban ultimately belongs to its speakers, not to the LLG or the BPFK. > BTW, I'm still waiting for an answer on wheter I could put the PDF of the > revised copy of CLL on the wiki. It has been months now and I don't even > know if the they met and deliberated on the matter. Who did you ask? I don't see any objections arising as long as you label it correctly. In any case, if there is some objection, the worse that could happen is that it gets removed, so just put it there, that's what a wiki is for, you don't ask for permission for everything. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.