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From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.213 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/e2febb7c16f58ef6 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db29796fd872048304da6d --0016e6db29796fd872048304da6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/3/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > > BTW, I'm still waiting for an answer on wheter I could put the PDF of t= he > > revised copy of CLL on the wiki. It has been months now and I don't eve= n > > know if the they met and deliberated on the matter. > > Who did you ask? I don't see any objections arising as long as you > label it correctly. In any case, if there is some objection, the worse > that could happen is that it gets removed, so just put it there, > that's what a wiki is for, you don't ask for permission for > everything. > > The PDF was a typeset version of the revised CLL that is available on jbotcan, with exactly the same invite to buy the printed version from LLG. = I just converted from HTML to PDF. I put the PDF on the wiki after having asked on the IRC channel but I had i= t removed in a matter of hours with the objection that I had to ask for permission first. I can't remember to whom exactly I wrote (I should have the email trail stored somewhere) and I got the answer that the topic would have been discussed and I would have had an official response from LLG. BTW, I also had John Cowan supporting my request after I had sent a copy of the PDF to him as the author. As a side note, I also had extremely negative reactions to the fact that I had already printed the PDF for myself ( http://picasaweb.google.it/rdentato/Lojban) and I sent payment for both CLL and L4B even if I didn't got the LLG books and the copies I printed were solely mine. remod --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e6db29796fd872048304da6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2010/3/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t;
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, I'm still waiting for an answer on wheter I could put the PDF= of the
> revised copy of CLL on the wiki. It has been months now and I don'= t even
> know if the they met and deliberated on the matter.

Who did you ask? I don't see any objections arising as long as yo= u
label it correctly. In any case, if there is some objection, the worse
that could happen is that it gets removed, so just put it there,
that's what a wiki is for, you don't ask for permission for
everything.


The PDF was a typeset version of the revised CLL= that is available on jbotcan, with exactly the same invite to buy the prin= ted version from LLG. I just converted from HTML to PDF.

I put the P= DF on the wiki after having asked on the IRC channel but I had it removed i= n a matter of hours with the objection that I had to ask for permission fir= st. I can't remember to whom exactly I wrote (I should have the email t= rail stored somewhere) and I got the answer that the topic would have been = discussed and I would have had an official response from LLG.=A0 BTW, I als= o had John Cowan supporting my request after I had sent a copy of the PDF t= o him as the author.

As a side note, I also had extremely negative reactions to the fact tha= t I had already printed the PDF for myself (http://picasaweb.google.it/rdentato/Lojban) and= I sent payment for both CLL and L4B even if I didn't got the LLG books= and the copies I printed were solely mine.

remod

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