From 3OQGySwsJBjgfoeYUVYlaYhagUcf.WigfidVUhaiiafYaliojm.Wig@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 06:49:11 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3OQGySwsJBjgfoeYUVYlaYhagUcf.WigfidVUhaiiafYaliojm.Wig@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwboV-0005iI-LL for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:49:10 -0700 Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3sf4438837vws.16 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=OZhIXrheXkTNgfO3jJHdW5SA4qH4/f7Thxcoy2cKFK4=; b=hwqX+sD35br3XgFMwnSOHDwzlSJkaPoD1Qpv5rX9EXPafzGdaSuJhTPy0mVAchcZr2 CmR3PXmwMrfroZXXT4msbXFB0Pz5ouxxYYuVkvLucnrCBkpbEdcN+V45TtXxg2UD0pJF gT91VsIeOo2qPiwMENwAei9nKDFgfe9THoc1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=x7ExPoJ0La3/TSo9H86lz4aalL2kZxpma5OaClbDA85loMm0MxIXIrQ/x/dqppvzKI 47Ugb+plEYDhM8weo92ixWhbitJDepT6ZP6c5AvTtqKDoZCtqR4bxUC/fFk4pZmeI+U8 B8zL9CfV7d78uE+LPYG1ge32d3cyaElrppLCU= Received: by 10.220.127.34 with SMTP id e34mr640610vcs.32.1269956921720; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.47.17 with SMTP id l17ls2712468vcf.5.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.167.16 with SMTP id o16mr1650819vcy.19.1269956920646; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.167.16 with SMTP id o16mr1650818vcy.19.1269956920614; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f48.google.com (mail-vw0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 29si13460312vws.2.2010.03.30.06.48.39; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.48; Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so4560229vws.7 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.97.206 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <5715b9301003291146h66475c74off6625befee8fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <8EE07369-765A-49AB-AEC4-1DEC1A904C37@gmail.com> <20100330090253.GG3000@nvg.org> <59C6A282-0F28-4016-98C7-907FBD3C4379@gmail.com> <23298cb41003300332u6bde63fdk9f8b819fff7bf2ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:48:37 -0400 Received: by 10.220.121.136 with SMTP id h8mr3977614vcr.73.1269956917807; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5715b9301003300648n23e17135kbae2919c8c36d84f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/550a60a1fbb51c08 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68eeeddf75415048304e249 --0016e68eeeddf75415048304e249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 After looking at the mock-up, that doesn't actually look too bad to me. I would far far rather read un-tainted lojban typography, and would certainly rather buy a book that used it (hint hint). However, one thing that I really DO NOT like at all is the fact that there are in-judiciously periods at the end of every sentence while there are none before any if the "i"'s. I would much rather see: vasru no pixra ja nuncasnu?>> li'u .I abu ca'o menli djice (to sekai over vasru no pixra ja nuncasnu?>> li'u. I abu ca'o menli djice (to sekai On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 30 Mar 2010, at 11:32, Remo Dentato wrote: > > > I think that an example of a page with lojban text composed according > your proposal would be very beneficial for the discussion. > > OK. I mocked this up quite quickly. First, look again at the Yiddish > example: > > http://www.evertype.com/books/alice-yi-p.1.png > > Then, have a look at the Lojban: > > http://www.evertype.com/books/alice-jbo-p.1.png > > Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e68eeeddf75415048304e249 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After looking at the mock-up, that doesn't actually look too bad to me.= =A0I would far far rather read un-tainted lojban typography, and would cer= tainly rather buy a book that used it (hint hint). =A0However, one thing th= at I really DO NOT like at all is the fact that there are in-judiciously pe= riods at the end of every sentence while there are none before any if the &= quot;i"'s.

I would much rather see:

= vasru no pixra ja nuncasnu?>> li'u
.I abu ca'o menl= i djice (to sekai

over

vasru no pixra ja nuncasnu?>> li'u.
I abu ca'o= menli djice (to sekai

On Tue, Mar 30, = 2010 at 9:35 AM, Michael Everson <michael.everson@gmail.com> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2010, at 11:32,= Remo Dentato wrote:

> I think that an example of a page with lojban text composed according = your proposal would be very beneficial for the discussion.

OK. I mocked this up quite quickly. First, look again at the Yiddish = example:

http://www.evertype.com/books/alice-yi-p.1.png

Then, have a look at the Lojban:

http://www.evertype.com/books/alice-jbo-p.1.png

Michael

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