From lukeabergen@gmail.com Thu Mar 04 14:42:42 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NnJkb-0007Fk-QB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:42:42 -0800 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so1305870vws.40 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:42:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I7PWcBHgou4pGQHl8tpBzkhBbGCL5TDeN81Y1JvWPNg=; b=fdb9gxXkYQbUxdN1tr7b+wMmdxmFGZEF1UEDMhYl6Vy2/tExBtTXPA7pyzYFomxrK6 a/aHTT2tgmFGB1qGIQNZcjqhFwZnLrTo1OAg00SMMAUapUeqMaiiJJPDbOa95lrHx1oj 52kCvJ0NtArYD9ZExGDoWhx/XXGXaqMMG90qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EdnEBmkmbdDrlWSXFxzmeH2fyHBhfEd4NJmak8JKksjYuuw85/Cbrv/PIZ+rShP+c3 FCbzgWCtQlXLHMnqPLvOMcBhrWKOlshbjJOHGhYaZZLJNTscBpTcUZ/KqoQAn82p/NN/ ahfTFaO4zYUcXtnal3yyr0AxuoCbRz9PsGE3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.127.65 with SMTP id f1mr14877vcs.117.1267742551182; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:42:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17561003041414w6122f0c4y757f43f70a9bbcd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <395141.17119.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <96f789a61003040653h3cbf33fbn82c24ece8e63ec22@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003040928r5d2d85efma8db985509ffbadf@mail.gmail.com> <369994.71546.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <925d17561003041351u11a65d8fpadc799cd405f8291@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003041359u2e158b13gac898593a8311c1d@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003041414w6122f0c4y757f43f70a9bbcd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:42:31 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9301003041442r613e933g80234426ff0d4cb5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Fw: bridi tail negation From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1ee156e0f8004810150e9 --001636e1ee156e0f8004810150e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha, right, I always forget the {cu}. I've read somewhere or other in the CLL that changing places around can be used to change the emphasis of a bridi much like saying "the store was gone to by mi" changes the emphasis t= o the store instead of "I went to the store". Maybe he was emphasizing the event of {zanfri} instead of the experiencer. 2010/3/4 Jorge Llamb=A8=AAas > 2010/3/4 Luke Bergen : > > But what if he wanted to emphasize the x2 place? Like {lo zarci se kla= ma > > mi} instead of {mi klama lo zarci}? > > (You do need "cu" in front of "se klama".) > > I'm not sure I understand your question, > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > 2010/3/4 Jorge Llamb=A8=AAas > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Lindar Greenwood > >> wrote: > >> >> >> =A0{.i na'e se zanfri fa lonu zutse ne'i le ricyzda gi'e na tavl= a}? > >> > > >> > I have nothing helpful to contribute other than pointing out that yo= u > >> > didn't need to explicitly mark {fa} if you used {se}. > >> > It isn't wrong, it's just redundant. > >> > >> Actually, he wouldn't need "fa" if he hadn't used "se". With "se", he > >> does need "fa" because he sent the place he wants to fill, originally > >> x2, to x1. > >> > >> mu'o mi'e xorxes > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or > if > >> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > >> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --001636e1ee156e0f8004810150e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha, right, I always forget the {cu}.  I've read somewhere or oth= er in the CLL that changing places around can be used to change the emphasi= s of a bridi much like saying "the store was gone to by mi" chang= es the emphasis to the store instead of "I went to the store". &n= bsp;Maybe he was emphasizing the event of {zanfri} instead of the expe= riencer.

2010/3/4 Jorge Llamb=A8=AAas <jjllambias@gmail.com>=
2010/3/4 Luke Bergen <lukeaberg= en@gmail.com>:
> But what if he wanted to emphasize the x2 place? &nb= sp;Like {lo zarci se klama
> mi} instead of {mi klama lo zarci}?

(You do need "cu" in front of "se klama".)

I'm not sure I understand your question,

mu'o mi'e xorxes

> 2010/3/4 Jorge Llamb=A8=AAas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Lindar Greenwood
>> <lindarthebard@yahoo= .com> wrote:
>> >> >> =A0{.i na'e se zanfri fa lonu zutse ne'i= le ricyzda gi'e na tavla}?
>> >
>> > I have nothing helpful to contribute other than pointing out = that you
>> > didn't need to explicitly mark {fa} if you used {se}.
>> > It isn't wrong, it's just redundant.
>>
>> Actually, he wouldn't need "fa" if he hadn't use= d "se". With "se", he
>> does need "fa" because he sent the place he wants to fil= l, originally
>> x2, to x1.
>>
>> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org
>> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if
>> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
>>
>
>


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