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References: <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <5715b9301003291146h66475c74off6625befee8fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <8EE07369-765A-49AB-AEC4-1DEC1A904C37@gmail.com> <20100330090253.GG3000@nvg.org> <59C6A282-0F28-4016-98C7-907FBD3C4379@gmail.com> <4BB20330.6030403@gmail.com> <5715b9301003300703h3a6a3d56t55d59cc18bd01d46@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5715b9301003300703h3a6a3d56t55d59cc18bd01d46@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD2A75D4759E27CC0B0DAD911" X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of leos.molas@gmail.com designates 209.85.222.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=leos.molas@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: leos.molas@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/19518a1ad9687abe Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD2A75D4759E27CC0B0DAD911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El 30/03/2010 11:03 a.m., Luke Bergen escribi=F3: > And I still don't understand what you stand to gain from changing thing= s > to make them suit your tastes. =20 Oh, I forgot to mention I don't like how lojban looks nowadays. It seems to disorganized, and it could be more beautiful. But... what I don't like it's to change what's official, and publish it. I would open a discussion and argument it like the one it's established, but without the fact the book it's going to published imminently. > I get a mental picture of you looking > through your many translations of alice and seeing them all use the sam= e > typography but having no freaking clue what the words actually say. I > don't mean to sound mean, but it kind of sounds like someone coming ove= r > to my house and drawing mustaches on all the art on my walls because > "it's more common for males from this period to have mustaches, it look= s > more appealing to me, and because I can". I don't know how you went from what I've said to this. Was it for me, or for Michael? mu'o mi'e .leos. --=20 My lojban journal: http://learninglojban.wordpress.com My personal blog: http://leomolas.tumblr.com --------------enigD2A75D4759E27CC0B0DAD911 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLsgifAAoJEGPqAjdF26uEo0UH/ikIAyUaU+MAf+A1Ph2alSAz sTGhHPTF126dq2MwcLhEVdoJCdgdJZ9yRvfOECbFaXCvolCkodL3/hvM5x+rIpO/ /UByh7TyagVMKAi+YISaLSBPOzf/zNu/WdpbVhcpAuYVKaE6r+oZW9EeTAq4J9Y/ p3acN6oiq2TX0gOe3XBarvBEjJPr141y1Dq9p8M7noC4Gn8Kgqti9qenjThxKsyM 3gBbUmrsYmP0xyMDFfx/xO/yms61DOyvK41WvApPZluIuAP84okV3pkIi3ewv3pw ZN3aPVeYtpqF6JhZ7ffPbs99afuo7eg3tuYza/fo/pAliEBRFBQ510kuG64hfp8= =GNsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD2A75D4759E27CC0B0DAD911--