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To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.222.186 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/dd6c318ed5ef0b53 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b928b0ade80483056038 --001636e0b928b0ade80483056038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @michael: do both =3Dp On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 22:20, Leo Molas wrote: > El 30/03/2010 11:03 a.m., Luke Bergen escribi=F3: > > And I still don't understand what you stand to gain from changing thing= s > > to make them suit your tastes. > > Oh, I forgot to mention I don't like how lojban looks nowadays. It seems > to disorganized, and it could be more beautiful. > > But... what I don't like it's to change what's official, and publish it. > I would open a discussion and argument it like the one it's established, > but without the fact the book it's going to published imminently. > > > I get a mental picture of you looking > > through your many translations of alice and seeing them all use the sam= e > > typography but having no freaking clue what the words actually say. I > > don't mean to sound mean, but it kind of sounds like someone coming ove= r > > to my house and drawing mustaches on all the art on my walls because > > "it's more common for males from this period to have mustaches, it look= s > > more appealing to me, and because I can". > > I don't know how you went from what I've said to this. Was it for me, or > for Michael? > > mu'o mi'e .leos. > > -- > My lojban journal: http://learninglojban.wordpress.com > My personal blog: http://leomolas.tumblr.com > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001636e0b928b0ade80483056038 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
@michael: do both =3Dp

O= n Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 22:20, Leo Molas <leos.molas@gmail.com> wrote:
El 30/03/2010 11:03 a.m., Luke Bergen escribi=F3:
> And I still don't understand what you stand to g= ain from changing things
> to make them suit your tastes.

Oh, I forgot to mention I don't like how lojban looks nowadays. I= t seems
to disorganized, and it could be more beautiful.

But... what I don't like it's to change what's official, and pu= blish it.
I would open a discussion and argument it like the one it's established= ,
but without the fact the book it's going to published imminently.

> I get a mental picture of you looking
> through your many translations of alice and seeing them all use the sa= me
> typography but having no freaking clue what the words actually say. = =A0I
> don't mean to sound mean, but it kind of sounds like someone comin= g over
> to my house and drawing mustaches on all the art on my walls because > "it's more common for males from this period to have mustache= s, it looks
> more appealing to me, and because I can".

I don't know how you went from what I've said to this. Was it= for me, or
for Michael?

mu'o mi'e .leos.

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My lojban journal: http://learninglojban.wordpress.com
My personal blog: = http://leomolas.tumblr.com


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