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From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: <702226df1003300803m6caec9f7y7a66b3bf9b71009b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:34:40 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <5715b9301003291146h66475c74off6625befee8fdf5@mail.gmail.com> <8EE07369-765A-49AB-AEC4-1DEC1A904C37@gmail.com> <20100330090253.GG3000@nvg.org> <59C6A282-0F28-4016-98C7-907FBD3C4379@gmail.com> <23298cb41003300332u6bde63fdk9f8b819fff7bf2ce@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003300803m6caec9f7y7a66b3bf9b71009b@mail.gmail.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.everson@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.218 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.everson@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: michael.everson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/7ee29e0663c7beb0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30 Mar 2010, at 16:03, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Okay, I can deal with most of it. My gast is a bit flabbered to hear it! > I prefer the left example better. (Although I'd rather someone went in wi= th a fine-toothed comb and put those denpa bu in where they belong.) I get the impression that some people really like this and some people don'= t.=20 > The right-side, I can deal with most of it. There is one thing in that ex= ample that is seriously grating, however. To use the first sentence: "...gi= 'e zukte fi noda. I abuboi...." This is horrible. Accepting your desire to = capitalize for this example only, that phrase should be "...gie' zukte fi n= oda .i Abuboi....". So you're treating .i like a danda, or | not belonging to either sentence? = What do people think about that? > {.i} is the Lojban word for the English period. I wouldn't say so. The full stop in Latin (Greek, Cyrillic, Armenian, etc.)= marks the *end* of a sentence. {.i} is a "sentence separator" (What is Loj= ban, p. 66) which seems to be described as introducing a new sentence whils= t continuing a theme. But at the bottom of the page it states that {.i} and= {ni'o} "start a new sentence or paragraph".=20 > If you're going to mark punctuation, I'd prefer you be consistent. For ex= ample, "lu<<...>>li'u" but "(to...toi)"? The punctuation should be the same= , so "to(...)toi". I want to discuss this in terms of narrative structure in due course. Not r= eady to do that yet.=20 > I still don't like the capitalization. >=20 > I think that a proficient jbopre, preferably Jorge, he being the author, = should go through your work and make sure that things such as what I've poi= nted out are corrected, such as putting the {.} in the right place, and pre= ferably in all the places that {.} has been optionally removed. Ill be delighted to work with Jorge of course. 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