From 3oy2ySwQOBs4uxu69EvwBuG5yB.8B0583vu708805y0B8E9C.w86@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 09:58:43 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3oy2ySwQOBs4uxu69EvwBuG5yB.8B0583vu708805y0B8E9C.w86@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nwelt-0006j9-Js for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:58:42 -0700 Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3sf4939440vws.16 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:58:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from :to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :mime-version:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fERfDrPKCj4DITccSQyu4Vb3RthkTKlAlgAjHpXW2r4=; b=lvGm5V+YKEm0HLE8d/ILG0UgccWcQNHUGbcUUrFWBzY9OX4eBHQ+CDsc771O8gNhfe CXFlRh9zbXAv8hLTiAquyOUego6fP/uSd5iRkod6yKoXWYMV07pT3W0d1gJLGyK+h8oh rJght24jaVuLQCUA8z39VLIzyTcNQK6pR5AGk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to :message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UYTzGf7qHc9LwYafFhDJTb29PeHHtQeOJ30G20o1teAZw3Q1NfWuMtXILfjx0TaBJx F2KeaCQKEVxyKkPJEBwjs/zHBnpXNPlxcfNo2+0XlW8tk8ooHVpGu6kjlVgiB0hLKe3e 0VasLh2jxRIoic4uRgJACdcoQU+Xu1o8XdDgQ= Received: by 10.220.107.155 with SMTP id b27mr630509vcp.16.1269968291526; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.68.217 with SMTP id w25ls522367vci.1.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.76.203 with SMTP id d11mr484697vck.11.1269968288728; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.6 with SMTP id r6mr51516ibv.20.1269965051685; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.6 with SMTP id r6mr51515ibv.20.1269965051650; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cec.wustl.edu (express.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.16]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si833868iwn.8.2010.03.30.09.04.11; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 128.252.21.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of adam@pubcrawler.org) client-ip=128.252.21.16; Received: from grid.cec.wustl.edu (grid.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.20.97]) by mail.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633F11E8050; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:04:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix, from userid 29287) id D1A241F7878; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:04:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65351F7836; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:04:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:04:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. In-Reply-To: <925d17561003300747x429c5714xbdbe074dacffad23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <2320FCB7-86FE-4E30-9F24-DAD6E40024D7@evertype.com> <20100328192909.GG6600@digitalkingdom.org> <20100328200611.GP15103@mercury.ccil.org> <20100328211724.GQ6600@digitalkingdom.org> <925d17561003281754i5813514naa117a8087a8c762@mail.gmail.com> <61B2BA90-CA1B-4746-B475-E2C7BC598C14@gmail.com> <925d17561003290646o2c994476h9935990406a323e2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003291025h7988029di80ebd10da44475c6@mail.gmail.com> <3340D209-1BF7-4BC7-9030-428AC0A08D38@gmail.com> <925d17561003300747x429c5714xbdbe074dacffad23@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LRH 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 128.252.21.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of adam@pubcrawler.org) smtp.mail=adam@pubcrawler.org X-Original-Sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d8842df7d3d0e9b4 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Michael Everson > wrote: >> On 29 Mar 2010, at 18:25, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> >>> Also, I notice that some cmavo are written without a space between them= , whereas today I would write the space. >>> Not a big deal, but you may want to adjust that. >> >> I am by no means competent to identify them or make this change, but if = you make a list I can do so for you. > > I think you will probably need some help from someone who can identify > such things if you want the punctuation to look right, whether you go > with casing or not. I would be happy to help you with the revision. > > The separation should be easily automated. Any "word" that has no > consonant clusters is really a string of cmavo. Each consonant begins > a new cmavo. Incidentally, I've been wondering for some time how clusters would look separated by a thin space, insetad of just a normal space. It seems like i= t could be a good compromise, indicating a semantic grouping, but still makin= g it very easy to split out where individual words begin and end. >>> Spaces between cmavo have always been optional, and the custom has vari= ed with time, with the tendency being towards preferring the spaced out for= ms. >> >> =BFPor exemplo? > > "icabo" is "i ca bo", but you don't have it capitalized presumably > because you didn't recognize it as a sentence separator. Similarly > "ijenaiji'a" is "i je nai ji'a". --=20 Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ "He's dead, Jim! As if our insurance rates weren't high enough already." --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.