From 3ATGySwwJBjAYMff.YMffMdZSYMUX.OaYXaVNMZSaaSXQSdagbe.OaY@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 10:12:59 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f160.google.com ([209.85.211.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3ATGySwwJBjAYMff.YMffMdZSYMUX.OaYXaVNMZSaaSXQSdagbe.OaY@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nwezn-00087N-0B for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:59 -0700 Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32sf9485571ywh.28 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:date:received :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=AQ1tPRATIw29L3IVcUKOAnkrCR743z0IjFPE4J9f64k=; b=hLB6r/0KGC5Ehud9GQqbVuZ0j2tOUnVTbU9KWQVH4P3GLEhykvohSNLGFFYS4vG2bE KSC22I+cPJEEqR8SfVlVsYh6a+hdEzKqpfCyo840Cil7PDj+BJZpHPq0fIoHZaeUxPAl FaEqEHo9/uXmsRgoc3WAlC/Tx2D3zAGR/PXao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=tesp6U8sOrY3e6CdqqGNtaYdFYeZuJVKd1NkY1samvOJbktMmoJwskMtvbvBaJvTIr H5xSCa5AirKtM5pZnHLilAn/MOEWxxF2ktsAI3LGJnAZ0HesVKybvXQQt9Uk+SRF/D2A LuyRsoaO6qj8LYy84ETjCe/3V9rcxIwGW29N8= Received: by 10.101.131.32 with SMTP id i32mr148958ann.77.1269969153285; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.91.6 with SMTP id t6ls763327agl.0.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.1.28 with SMTP id 28mr8022245aga.3.1269969151966; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.1.28 with SMTP id 28mr8022238aga.3.1269969151740; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f52.google.com (mail-gw0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 17si416387gxk.12.2010.03.30.10.12.30; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.52; Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so648243gwj.25 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.196.12 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:12:30 -0400 Received: by 10.151.21.21 with SMTP id y21mr6022075ybi.192.1269969150544; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Michael Everson, What Do You Want From Us? From: Matt Arnold To: lojban X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=matt.mattarn@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b548fd0eaf4c6a85 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/b7900aa91a465048 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Every once in a while, someone discovers Lojban and comes on the list to tell us how much they don't like it. But we can't do language reform at so deep a level, even if we wanted to, so those conversations are, to me, pointless and uninteresting. This seems like another case of it. We lack the power to stop you publishing your book, so what has me confused is, why don't you? What are you trying to achieve here? Do you want or need something from us? Does it just give you some kind of gratification to apply a lot of negative adjectives to Lojban? Or what? I've trawled through more of this endless discussion than I should have. I am bored now. I don't want to read any more, so your reply is probably the last email I will read on this topic. Make it concise. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.