From 3pUKySwcJBuULfLVUbZNTHPS.JVTSVQIHUNVVNSLNYVbWZ.JVT@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 11:28:16 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f141.google.com ([209.85.210.141]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3pUKySwcJBuULfLVUbZNTHPS.JVTSVQIHUNVVNSLNYVbWZ.JVT@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwgAd-0004QB-Jl for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:28:16 -0700 Received: by yxe5 with SMTP id 5sf1909545yxe.2 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=HORyJWF5OYdFbCR1F/UjJrh8Z+YU8BGz/mNsfEBr2KQ=; b=PE+HzxkxNRQ5Nkmsjh/fT6ve7yXDhWCSt+Qk4++mk9RXW2WgvUtQHx1StcoyBjJa4A Ps6F53R3DDLq/ML6NZXRAs7vshva8ht1K4hws+CDtRN/9s6jdS0zjrSRmtKE42dnDkPR 4zIPw73rpJ9Buteee4o0Kr0KpHpjLcMVN2EQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=fVm91yDThex4UEgBofJ856KnXRSj7REQ1wP6hHWWQO0FwrN3T8ItD7BAZcxrVocA1v b0JxmooNkQxT30m0FxYv2k7oDNNfcIWLAayb68msb4a6Qbty3FGK8zEVtn+9HjkrmNv6 sqJTqchzB+a3pPdXlMk/EM0b7qUhJ/ItOuNI0= Received: by 10.91.82.11 with SMTP id j11mr537890agl.41.1269973669856; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.35.68 with SMTP id o4ls3130099bkd.1.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.10.13 with SMTP id n13mr444445bkn.1.1269973668340; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.10.13 with SMTP id n13mr444444bkn.1.1269973668275; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f177.google.com (mail-wy0-f177.google.com [74.125.82.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v26si5672953bkt.3.2010.03.30.11.27.47; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.177; Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so1697113wyf.8 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.2.209 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8EE07369-765A-49AB-AEC4-1DEC1A904C37@gmail.com> <20100330090253.GG3000@nvg.org> <59C6A282-0F28-4016-98C7-907FBD3C4379@gmail.com> <23298cb41003300332u6bde63fdk9f8b819fff7bf2ce@mail.gmail.com> <20100330181738.GV6084@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:27:44 -0600 Received: by 10.216.85.17 with SMTP id t17mr347377wee.178.1269973666987; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <702226df1003301127k55bb1cc9m102f41311525cc3c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/c7db785d5a67ea39 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2d234b7e7d048308c9a6 --0016e6db2d234b7e7d048308c9a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 30 Mar 2010, at 19:17, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > This may not have been your intention, but so we're clear: the thing on > the left is not how I write Lojban for publication; it needs dots. 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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Michael Everso= n <michae= l.everson@gmail.com> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2010, at 19:17, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

= > This may not have been your intention, but so we're clear: the thi= ng on the left is not how I write Lojban for publication; it needs dots. = =A0If your intention was to show two forms that you find OK, then nevermind= , but if your intention was to compare normal Lojban orthography to your ve= rsion, you've erected a straw man.

I always find mentions of straw men unconvincing.

The text= on the left is based on the source text as I have it, which has no dots.
Is there a version with dots?
=A0
Probably not, but there should be. (There should also not be, IMO, a v= ersion *without* them.)

Mich= ael

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