From 36myySwgJBlUE01AGxGB39x58.zB98B6yxA3BB3813EBHCF.zB9@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 14:28:37 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f196.google.com ([209.85.217.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <36myySwgJBlUE01AGxGB39x58.zB98B6yxA3BB3813EBHCF.zB9@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwizA-00011p-ER for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:37 -0700 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20sf17753013gxk.10 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=YKCprnC1WvtImwDKO/Wx+FLgApF8VLwbpHEvKVsZt+c=; b=sgtgzIghoykMZgA5yiIzD5CerXXt+50Ba7IWNRZp/gFMpoX+XGVwNRWRMHdsF/3eUM CACQp1CKzRiZJYbrKfoDaemaeNlqb0YfRlkMHfcB4Fk8HD+BJAYbSZB2whw8Kz2bLnAJ joV7TpsEKrUtmQ8Gj+LJWGV5EB1m9o46xUx4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=4e+1FDzYsCXtwRIcWo0Et/S0YMTPfgCrFBExwT+NdxqFrMbzUEfzS/bpvSLGe6y4U7 1n+3tuW2e8jTM5F0FAjvTEe/G7NkvAGF5aIRhvmGSZJKmP1KkY+yARsH8G3Dp3OZ8EDp qrXFo7yLWvr+yH5pWBC2NNTZjdN3vZNF0931M= Received: by 10.91.182.17 with SMTP id j17mr80909agp.31.1269984490336; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.32.206 with SMTP id e14ls5370867bkd.2.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.84 with SMTP id a20mr443309bke.3.1269984488656; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.84 with SMTP id a20mr443308bke.3.1269984488563; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com (mail-ww0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a10si6890284bkc.5.2010.03.30.14.28.07; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.49; Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so676046wwa.8 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.21.19 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <009D3D10-8631-4E7E-943E-A64F9BA43478@mac.com> <23298cb41003301358m1bfeb3d7jfe28bcabb16ae5d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:28:07 +0200 Received: by 10.216.161.146 with SMTP id w18mr133777wek.100.1269984487223; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23298cb41003301428n4916c3cfx6e57889c50e84785@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Michael Everson, What Do You Want From Us? From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b548fd0eaf4c6a85 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/bf04250ad68c8eba Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c72953b304f04830b4ef0 --0016364c72953b304f04830b4ef0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Matt Arnold wrote: > Remo, > > Seriously? You think you need permission? Don't paint yourself as a > victim of tyranny in this scenario. > > That was not the intent. It was just a way to highlight how pretentious was your tone in asking Michael about "what does he wants". I might not need permission to discuss but it seems he owes you a justification. Seriously, your post is full of negative and aggressive sentences. You also misrepresented the entire thing as the point in discussion is to wheter add some elements like quotes and partenthesis and so on, nobody talked about "deep reform" and nobody said that he doesn't like lojban". Don't try to paint yourself as victim of boring, pointless and uninteresting discussions since nobody forces you to be part of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016364c72953b304f04830b4ef0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Remo,

Seriously? You think you need permission? Don't paint yourself as a
victim of tyranny in this scenario.

=A0
That was not the intent. It was just a = way to highlight how pretentious was your tone in asking Michael about &quo= t;what does he wants".=A0 I might not need permission to discuss but i= t seems he owes you a justification.

Seriously, your post is full of negative and aggressive sentences. You = also misrepresented the entire thing as the point in discussion is to whete= r add some elements like quotes and partenthesis and so on, nobody talked a= bout "deep reform" and nobody said that he doesn't like lojba= n".

Don't try to paint yourself as victim of boring, pointless and unin= teresting discussions since nobody forces you to be part of it.


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