From 3sXmySwgSBikWQUTbJQQINLNYFQPNSLITR.TWLQTOGFSLTTLQJLWTZUX.HTR@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 15:23:06 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3sXmySwgSBikWQUTbJQQINLNYFQPNSLITR.TWLQTOGFSLTTLQJLWTZUX.HTR@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nwjpu-0004w0-8u for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:23:06 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf3698138pwi.16 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=THFVLsu6BpU5IAgDiz/7JYtu/WkyQccnw58ob3nZEbw=; b=qS9dOXY9KU3qaSiijxj03FRcyASqQAD2ZRJNtVmJRqAAUajO3mXqvS/8e2NfkzSYyP +G2Lt07pwFgkple9N3vGMluWcYB4BK6J2EeOqnHCaF/Cf4ZiYcMxMWtlpsFXDLilhK43 eEM+H0m4zSGJS3Gf3FQG+zSLs9iwMkLRa2C5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=p2/71TYwv53T6JZDFtfKAwEGbf5ivQV7X7pd3qbayjISlvAUwd6w6G+RrInajBHB4i gERW/bFLsHiXm3DVzhktFHojZ0wc8KzfBua6RJ4luOVuCaakzcPEN5S3rv+M6GNi7deE bVIP6s3BkvFKYg0tbFRdi7WJmxdRWWAMDEUtk= Received: by 10.141.2.7 with SMTP id e7mr367471rvi.15.1269987761553; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.187.12 with SMTP id o12ls5883rvp.0.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.22 with SMTP id g22mr1136857rvb.4.1269987759852; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.22 with SMTP id g22mr1136856rvb.4.1269987759826; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si1284010pzk.7.2010.03.30.15.22.39; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.5; Received: (qmail 5976 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2010 22:22:39 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Mar 2010 22:22:39 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NwjpW-0004vC-H8 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:22:38 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Michael Everson, What Do You Want From Us? Message-ID: <20100330222238.GD6084@digitalkingdom.org> References: <009D3D10-8631-4E7E-943E-A64F9BA43478@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b548fd0eaf4c6a85 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/81f730dbde55f328 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 09:39:54PM +0100, Michael Everson wrote: > On 30 Mar 2010, at 18:53, Kevin Reid wrote: > > > Of course, a large portion of the discussion is bikeshed > > painting, or whatever you want to call it; but *stomping on the > > discussion is not the right answer*. > > What is this bike-shed thing? (I parsed this as bi-kesh'd the > first time I saw it.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_Law_of_Triviality http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1557897 Compare yak shaving: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2005/03/dont_shave_that.html -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.