From 3tnqySwIPBi8NcNZdXTNcLj.NZ.fVWZUMLYRZZRWPRcZfad.NZX@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 15:27:28 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f155.google.com ([209.85.210.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3tnqySwIPBi8NcNZdXTNcLj.NZ.fVWZUMLYRZZRWPRcZfad.NZX@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nwju8-0005HP-Qp for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:28 -0700 Received: by yxe27 with SMTP id 27sf2877972yxe.26 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-provags-id:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1mqI2X+YiL2P4bNskhRzQtu8JAf9remVm1hnh0JTNEs=; b=xkbTDOXzJMxlVudVBw0FNMKa8LQFSSv4Z6DEpDRRjWZPslryYev9T7PtIbBRQURwQb 7EwrZBoJtV+91oB002zGWaefjA6crzNreNw/aDiySTtC9cezj6DxlJoRS3yzOo/z9TUk ZsVOyDAIE5pMFUVA6g8CfOVqsA9Qj6lFmNv0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-provags-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=cZg0PFW4LpX21zSE8nFVQSNfwn9GMzFCD3KSW3zW8wR8ZGPuRtOXq/mohtqS+bEr5D r9jjXkartP1bj4M9GIQOGtTXLvi6f4lQB1VR58etgRRdSRu3Huzd2eRJI7FWfvL8N7Yn 3rBdOUaDGqjXh2vGivwjSOiRsy8cK8lpWbb/8= Received: by 10.91.49.16 with SMTP id b16mr571645agk.8.1269988022462; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.86.126.32 with SMTP id y32ls5066fgc.0.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.87.44.36 with SMTP id w36mr200637fgj.17.1269988021099; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.70 with SMTP id b6mr395849bka.37.1269986032855; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.70 with SMTP id b6mr395847bka.37.1269986032736; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.9]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si433375bwz.1.2010.03.30.14.53.52; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.9; Received: from [192.168.1.100] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lg6v5-1NCLrn0P9f-00ouvz; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:53:52 +0200 Message-Id: From: CosmicRay To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Subject: Re: [lojban] Michael Everson, What Do You Want From Us? Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:54:04 +0100 References: <009D3D10-8631-4E7E-943E-A64F9BA43478@mac.com> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/iANSXat+570NFs2sGQNH5qhi69oQlnxxTc+u 616iUcwpsDiwSPAsW0tYA5hvS8dE8nElQ4cjZvfVQc6eei/Hls 2vceWJvAJc78MDp5pga44hjdT8JIrIU X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b548fd0eaf4c6a85 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/b9f38cf625874afa Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On 30 Mar 2010, at 21:39, Michael Everson wrote: > >> Of course, a large portion of the discussion is bikeshed painting, >> or whatever you want to call it; but *stomping on the discussion is >> not the right answer*. > > What is this bike-shed thing? (I parsed this as bi-kesh'd the first > time I saw it.)\ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_Law_of_Triviality > Michael Now please, tell those of us that support your project what help you need, include a foreword explaining what is deviating from actual Lojban and why, and print the darn thing. kozmikreis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.