From 3unqySwoNBjMZdobXZgTXhadYQPc.dgV.jZadYQPcVddVaTVgdjeh.Rdb@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Mar 30 15:27:31 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f155.google.com ([209.85.210.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3unqySwoNBjMZdobXZgTXhadYQPc.dgV.jZadYQPcVddVaTVgdjeh.Rdb@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NwjuB-0005Ht-Ns for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:31 -0700 Received: by yxe27 with SMTP id 27sf2878116yxe.26 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-provags-id:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l2XUS/kEp4eVVY1zxpoCPIGjUNqMRGz8yCOazVH8gfY=; b=DwQBw/kC6B3kBW1EWkcB+Jlz80CAModBhdnUmc37/3ibexD6NFXUcUZ5AQhfK9C6UX mF9DsUiDWhka7hsZBh9iWPkPgBBLlK18DU0J3573EGDs6ZnD/+3FLmuemDjXfY8ahHTO G1bWnFpCps1iHgUoB2x8Tn5wLAkWnQPpM1Ct4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-provags-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ed8YdGKwwHMhtGX4hM+YO9Oy87tjTaNKkVzj6ZwOvhMn4LAzTamoKC5SBEeOGavKTw 9plkgAtA8UXSKqn8rfXujVpyw6wjHpFrcDQAl3bR7cEmXJhVJPJAzN+suNFEmuigDIeI 0DdSjZ9Hns11gNLOnzFmUjMlirz1+xjbYJIPc= Received: by 10.90.19.14 with SMTP id 14mr97804ags.5.1269988026472; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.87.74.30 with SMTP id b30ls4168fgl.3.p; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.87.71.36 with SMTP id y36mr511819fgk.10.1269988025465; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.144.193 with SMTP id a1mr526770fav.25.1269986614979; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.144.193 with SMTP id a1mr526769fav.25.1269986614948; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si468653fxm.12.2010.03.30.15.03.34; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.10; Received: from [192.168.1.100] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LxMio-1NTc7T2igk-016nw4; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:03:34 +0200 Message-Id: <037C5CDA-5A74-4D9E-8215-EAB9E37F850F@lojban.org.uk> From: CosmicRay To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Subject: Re: [lojban] Michael Everson, What Do You Want From Us? Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:03:46 +0100 References: <009D3D10-8631-4E7E-943E-A64F9BA43478@mac.com> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18o3t+Slxq+QvTd7Y8ecBBwVmmbywWkSUj+SUu /KkwnXWza1wA6X9qRMT4rxtbZmD3QbHUj9xbg6FGKgOTdaDHNr ePcfIvMmkIaH5xrqZ+0NnuB5GS1iv8I X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.10 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) smtp.mail=kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk X-Original-Sender: kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b548fd0eaf4c6a85 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/5b7cbdaf97bb542e Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--378349466 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-5--378349466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes > On 30 Mar 2010, at 21:39, Michael Everson > wrote: > >> >>> Of course, a large portion of the discussion is bikeshed painting, >>> or whatever you want to call it; but *stomping on the discussion >>> is not the right answer*. >> >> What is this bike-shed thing? (I parsed this as bi-kesh'd the first >> time I saw it.)\ > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_Law_of_Triviality > >> Michael > > Now please, tell those of us that support your project what help you > need, include a foreword explaining what is deviating from actual > Lojban and why, and print the darn thing. > > kozmikreis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --Apple-Mail-5--378349466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 30 Mar 2010, at 21:39, Michael Everson <= michael.everson@gmail.com> wrote:


Of course, a large portion of the discussion is bikeshed painting, = or whatever you want to call it; but *stomping on the discussion is not the= right answer*.

What is th= is bike-shed thing? (I parsed this as bi-kesh'd the first time I saw it.)\<= /span>

h= ttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_Law_of_Triviality<= br>
Michael

Now please, tell those of us that support yo= ur project what help you need, include a foreword explaining what is deviat= ing from actual Lojban and why, and print the darn thing.
<= /span>
kozmikreis

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