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From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: <394028.54555.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:31:08 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <20100330090253.GG3000@nvg.org> <59C6A282-0F28-4016-98C7-907FBD3C4379@gmail.com> <23298cb41003300332u6bde63fdk9f8b819fff7bf2ce@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003300803m6caec9f7y7a66b3bf9b71009b@mail.gmail.com> <32A2435D-5119-409E-8CAD-E5F899C5AAF1@mac.com> <9E58473C-A8AC-464F-826D-E44470D7F15F@gmail.com> <79614.64421.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17561003301438s3c8849cam720e481a8c0ac885@mail.gmail.com> <419041.21152.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <09F5E427-6864-4339-9F27-6380D4EE0D93@gmail.com> <394028.54555.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.everson@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.everson@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: michael.everson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/c7d02c7779c2f40a Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30 Mar 2010, at 21:54, someone who wishes to remain anonymous responded = to me off-list; reposted with that person's approval: >> I hear a lot of different opinions. Some like the experiment, some loath= e it.=20 >=20 > As a newbie, I like the experiment. I bet the "normal" look will do wond= ers for lojban popularity. Right now, lojban looks like a specialized lang= uage for some bizarre, obscure purpose such as defining ontologies for Prol= og or Lisp expert systems. And who besides purists could use it in that fo= rm? But after your style is finalized, lojban should finally be recognizab= le as a real tongue, useful for ordinary human-to-human interaction. Besid= es, beautiful typography never hurts book sales. I hope that there is a balance that can be struck.=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.