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From: Michael Everson In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:13:49 +0100 Message-Id: <8FAA4C0A-7B17-4B64-A9B2-B31946C7484C@gmail.com> References: <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <23298cb41003300332u6bde63fdk9f8b819fff7bf2ce@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003300803m6caec9f7y7a66b3bf9b71009b@mail.gmail.com> <32A2435D-5119-409E-8CAD-E5F899C5AAF1@mac.com> <9E58473C-A8AC-464F-826D-E44470D7F15F@gmail.com> <79614.64421.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17561003301438s3c8849cam720e481a8c0ac885@mail.gmail.com> <419041.21152.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.everson@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.everson@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: michael.everson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/2dc71e5733c7344d Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31 Mar 2010, at 14:06, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:55 PM, John E Clifford w= rote: >> Nice point. I don't see a solution except to shift after the introducti= on, a not-unheard of pattern (e.g. English 'a' and 'the'). >=20 > What kind of shift do you mean? >=20 > (1) from "lo blabi ractu" to "le blabi ractu" I don't think John meant this. > (2) from "lo blabi ractu" to "la blabi ractu" > (3) from "lo blabi ractu" to "la Blabi Ractu" I think John meant these two (the first of which would be "standard" and th= e second my reprehensible desire for nice typography). > (4) from "lo Blabi Ractu" to "la Blabi Ractu" The first here is not in the source text. Michael --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.