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From: Efrain Caro To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 209.85.211.199 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=betsemes@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: betsemes@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/5b974192099af54e Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Michael, Who exactly will you sell your book to? I surely won't buy it with the formating you want to use, and I see a lot of opposition to your ideas. So could you clarify how you plan to market it? On 3/30/10, Michael Everson wrote: > On 30 Mar 2010, at 21:54, someone who wishes to remain anonymous responded > to me off-list; reposted with that person's approval: > >>> I hear a lot of different opinions. Some like the experiment, some loathe >>> it. >> >> As a newbie, I like the experiment. I bet the "normal" look will do >> wonders for lojban popularity. Right now, lojban looks like a specialized >> language for some bizarre, obscure purpose such as defining ontologies for >> Prolog or Lisp expert systems. And who besides purists could use it in >> that form? But after your style is finalized, lojban should finally be >> recognizable as a real tongue, useful for ordinary human-to-human >> interaction. Besides, beautiful typography never hurts book sales. > > I hope that there is a balance that can be struck. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- Efrain http://www.firstgiving.com/ahome4alyson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.