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From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/52bab2e44236705a Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8de44ea1729604831a9633 --00c09f8de44ea1729604831a9633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .ua Thank you for setting me straight on that point xorxes.... I still lik= e the look of {.i} over {i} regardless of it's not being strictly necessary. Probably for the same reason that Michael likes {i Mi klama} over {i mi klama}; namely that it's more eye-catching. :) 2010/3/31 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > One of the really cool things about lojban > > for me is that it is possible (if highly inadvisable) to remove all > > whitespace and still be able to parse the text unambiguously. > > Be careful with that claim. It is possible to remove all whitespace, > but you must do TWO things first: > > (1) Include all the otherwise optional dots. > (2) Include all the otherwise optional stress marking for brivla. > > People tend to remember (1), but sometimes forget (2). You cannot > remove whitespace without including brivla stress marking. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00c09f8de44ea1729604831a9633 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .ua =A0Thank you for setting me straight on that point xorxes.... I still l= ike the look of {.i} over {i}=A0regardless=A0of it's not being strictly= necessary. =A0Probably for the same reason that Michael likes {i Mi klama}= over {i mi klama}; namely that it's more eye-catching. :)

2010/3/31 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>=A0One of the really cool things about lojban
> for me is that it is possible (if highly inadvisable) to remove all > whitespace and still be able to parse the text unambiguously.

Be careful with that claim. It is possible to remove all whitespace,
but you must do TWO things first:

(1) Include all the otherwise optional dots.
(2) Include all the otherwise optional stress marking for brivla.

People tend to remember (1), but sometimes forget (2). You cannot
remove whitespace without including brivla stress marking.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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