From jjllambias@gmail.com Fri Mar 05 06:55:26 2010 Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NnYvx-0001rs-Oj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:55:25 -0800 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so2267613bwz.4 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:55:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9sv27KtvGp17lLRgm52dE+Ni/QtdBiZmsphMv7qqSs4=; b=it7hZviv8iA1zJZreUOhi8kNZnD5m3MQbmv24Ea1y8kDCkqLL6pE2Zo/f1+1amzaB5 aFe4D9GYdMKHgBtQlzKNfP1iP2fyuRvs646kyulVIwO+d0SH2CxMJGntUCBYWJiQKYie nU51sL+7mllx7mfjrIpmc32dpMx/rCvxIVy28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Sl9vTe08UxXB+hGJUEu9TrrJS3OWpO9Tdj4MNJ09WHN9e/DsSEUYre9RWbXF36Sen/ 1tL7RZNJJeViXUpW575IIo2gt1hJLVT+V1ZJn5WkfQuzoPRS1+yx7v+f6YUJyBG7CAI3 lvuUo0pycjlw2YNl25sZBqdG24oXbTYk/77NE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.4.150 with SMTP id 22mr123940bkr.192.1267800914881; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:55:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <96f789a61003050644r54c7e84bp696cb2b785f67572@mail.gmail.com> References: <395141.17119.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <369994.71546.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <925d17561003041351u11a65d8fpadc799cd405f8291@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003041359u2e158b13gac898593a8311c1d@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003041414w6122f0c4y757f43f70a9bbcd5@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003041442r613e933g80234426ff0d4cb5@mail.gmail.com> <249d5b951003041916n67235566jf7415ce90e4dc757@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003050434m7010e535rca50dd0e79eb79a6@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003050637s4aa32cd2k662f922fb648023e@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a61003050644r54c7e84bp696cb2b785f67572@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:55:14 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003050655k1b4bbb03t8f040b8d1fa2eaf8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Fw: bridi tail negation From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> I would guess that the reason for the {se ... fa} bit was partly to >> emphasize the experience and partly to keep from having to figure out ho= w to >> terminate=A0{lonu zutse ne'i le ricyzda gi'enai tavla} > > ?? =A0It just terminates with a single kei (which, if it was moved to > the front, wouldn't even be needed if cu was there.) "kei" by itself wouldn't work in this case. "kei" terminates "nu", but not "lo", so "lo nu zutse ne'i le ricyzda gi'enai tavla kei zifre" is just a sumti. "ku" would be the needed terminator in this case, but of course "cu" is better. "cu" is always better than terminators. It still makes sense to move a heavy x1 sumti after the selbri just for clarity, so that you don't keep the listener wondering what the selbri will be until the last minute. mu'o mi'e xorxes