From 3C7KzSwoJBrwllnncodkcuiockn.eqonqldcpiqqingitqwru.eqo@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Mar 31 13:35:49 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3C7KzSwoJBrwllnncodkcuiockn.eqonqldcpiqqingitqwru.eqo@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nx4dc-0006MG-OW for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:48 -0700 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf1141124vws.16 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jnMv8IvtWF0hNJHvI6HUGND1wTaFxnK1mc8HYlOOIdI=; b=aZY2lCNREskXRc+zB8sCo/VpV93Ic+7DDR5Ghczk3g+guNeiZA1BXD6KQz2jwuuh8T C5AuPBfThaQuASMzHtaZ9egon1/wQ5/UCB2FcAVwpylO+uPUxSsHf/OdS+dLWcabRA2A P6frpk/8MHdAUKR+tx6fXl+dT2pspLiFWYHYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=3FicOjzNkwlBklucRXYb11FGYg8YGH7HUzFJhfT9uWirhIKULZdQpUjbCDQzMS7UiS 4j5leTNqGKSQ3dGKEOwNDP/mX+gZlE2JuI4ZHS0w5zM6sSUZEwHKMg9MGyvmY3hJ76Jp WwT6Wi1LRoO0H/R+EX/e0PO5qxXNlAluPVGc4= Received: by 10.220.107.165 with SMTP id b37mr201640vcp.51.1270067723459; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.174.133 with SMTP id t5ls204780vcz.2.p; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.48.74 with SMTP id q10mr2039323vcf.5.1270067721597; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.48.74 with SMTP id q10mr2039321vcf.5.1270067721503; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f177.google.com (mail-qy0-f177.google.com [209.85.221.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 34si17163848vws.3.2010.03.31.13.35.20; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.177; Received: by mail-qy0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 7so516324qyk.17 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:35:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.67 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:34:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BB3921C.50308@lojban.org> <4BB3A8E7.3000500@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:34:21 -0300 Received: by 10.229.97.147 with SMTP id l19mr21220qcn.24.1270067661697; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Summary: Cultural fu'ivla From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/6edf3f52e6f491ba X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d795d9cd0c52193a Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Christopher Doty wr= ote: > 2010/3/31 Jorge Llamb=EDas >> >> A complete list of fu'ivla for all UN member countries would probably >> be a useful thing to have around. > > As a linguist, (who once dreamed of having international scientific > publications appear in Lojban), I would find it much more useful to have > words to talk about languages that don't have to be made up on the spot, = and > don't refer to a bunch of other things as well. That's fine. One thing doesn't exclude the other. A couple of problems that I see with the ISO-codes idea is that the codes include h, q, w, and that many letter combinations will not be valid in Lojban phonotactics. Converting h -> x, q -> k, w -> v or u would probably create many duplicate codes, and I'm not sure how to deal with the phonotactics issue. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.