From 3TsKzSwgSBhA7154Cu11tywy9q10y3wt42.47w14zrq3w44w1uw74A58.s42@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Mar 31 14:45:09 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f155.google.com ([209.85.222.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3TsKzSwgSBhA7154Cu11tywy9q10y3wt42.47w14zrq3w44w1uw74A58.s42@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nx5ik-00021f-PM for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:45:09 -0700 Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27sf227304pzk.2 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:45:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=DtnxhOK00XFLjgWCdq0XQV9XIEiKF6mouN8pEJ97wvo=; b=uDiMKl02yG9sU3QVvdVG47wibGjKbVVoXYq1F4qxEAB/P4ZYsmyH/aJStizB88szbg 9WyN8GmeBKDpAodrX5fsx8a8txBT3F3Ljmxdpn6JNBODSHZKGvPCU3anJUlUof1awezK AfJKZYdA/tBDKz9nUuiK8vgYNmj0psCouzPUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=du+gsGDxQ3HxZnJoBM1te0YfsfjHCjQ+KhGwycCZQ8oi8eigk6LOKKYaX3XWufDzdL 8XdZzXChQNhkSOtdGn8jgogSaF9NSUqOzjY+79g9E4N5ajbgp7FzqO2rslSCYaH5G+pv VM+xBeGm7ZoHsEISSnvYZbMK51L9WJzif0BQU= Received: by 10.142.2.13 with SMTP id 13mr217742wfb.28.1270071886121; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:44:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.8.28 with SMTP id 28ls231384wfh.0.p; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.119.40 with SMTP id r40mr1290584wfc.19.1270071881350; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.119.40 with SMTP id r40mr1290583wfc.19.1270071881331; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si1565027pzk.2.2010.03.31.14.44.41; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.9; Received: (qmail 28262 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2010 21:44:40 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 31 Mar 2010 21:44:40 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nx5iJ-0001zN-Tu for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:44:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:44:39 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. Message-ID: <20100331214439.GY6084@digitalkingdom.org> References: <44AE9DF1-8DD8-4134-895C-054AA27AE1EC@gmail.com> <702226df1003290810r9685560v7ef251bdfb421911@mail.gmail.com> <4BB0D4DF.2070501@gmail.com> <702226df1003291006o242c37a8q6bc5ea53b6e6377d@mail.gmail.com> <23298cb41003291406x5dc8a4faub2d8d21693f9c5fc@mail.gmail.com> <414121.54710.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <23298cb41003292314q6a4c6029u90c80f5dda2a2836@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003300557v741d06bar6ebc4ee5acbcd930@mail.gmail.com> <23298cb41003300646u2fde049fsa8e143914a54c20a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23298cb41003300646u2fde049fsa8e143914a54c20a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d680ebbd1cb82728 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 03:46:14PM +0200, Remo Dentato wrote: > > As a side note, I also had extremely negative reactions to the > fact that I had already printed the PDF for myself ( > http://picasaweb.google.it/rdentato/Lojban) and I sent payment for > both CLL and L4B even if I didn't got the LLG books and the copies > I printed were solely mine. (speaking officially as LLG secretary) I don't know who reacted negatively to that (probably me), but they were wrong. We would, of course, prefer that people give money to the LLG as they are able (and we *do* spend money, for example on paying for people to come to LogFest, and some day to print more books), whether in the form of buying books or some other way. Regardles, though, you are entirely within your rights to print out copies of things we make freely available online and, in the case of the CLL at least (I'd have to check about WiL, and I have no idea about LfB) are welcome to modify it, as long as you make clear your modifications are official (see other mail for more about this). If you somehow made a big business of *selling* them to other people, without giving any money back to the LLG, there'd be some legitimate crankyness, but no-one's even suggested that. :) -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.