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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban list X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.4 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/e12a0c916591d8e3 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/6dcb7e50d4dfdcd5 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649d606af30f7048321c2a2 --0016e649d606af30f7048321c2a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jonathan Jones Date: Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] [lojban-announcements] The LLG/BPFK could use some helpers. To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org I do a pretty decent job of keeping up on all the things being discussed in the Lojban and Lojban-beginners lists, so I'd be willing to keep you informed of things I feel are important that I see on those lists. In fact, I have one thing that I think you ought to pass on to the Board already- that being your proposal on the restructuring of the BPFK. I personally think it's a very good idea, especially as the more people there are working on the issues that need to be addressed, the less workload per-person, and the faster things get done. (Also, as we've already seen from the current discussion regarding the cultural gismu, holding discussions on such topics publicly, such as in the Lojban list, draws quite a lot of people's attention, positively, and can come up with a viable solution rather quickly. (One of the good things the open-source software has taught us. ;) )) On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > FOLLOWUPS TO: me personally, or the main list. > > So, the community seems to be very, very active right now. :) So > I'm going to put a call out to see if any of you people are willing > to do some actual *work* around here. > > Things are so crazy I don't even know what we need, exactly, so I'd > really love it if people who are willing to take on official Lojban > jobs would mail me personally for the sort of things they might want > to do. > > There's one thing I do *know* we need, though: a pulse-taker. > > All of the board members have extremely time-consuming personal > lives, and all of us get overwhelmed by very large email threads. > For my own part, I get so overwhelmed that I tend to ignore the main > list for large swathes of time, and sometimes miss really important > things that way. > > I would *love* it if one-or-more people would step up to the task of > keeping me (as LLG Secretary) informed as to what's actually going > on in the Lojban community, be it on the mailing lists or IRC or web > forums or whatever. I would love to have the time to do it myself, > but I simply do not. Sufficiently important things I would then > pass to the members and/or board. > > Let me know in private email if you're interested. > > -Robin > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > -- > The mail came from the "Lojban Announcements" Google Group. You are > probably not subscribed to that group directly. All mails to this group are > forwarded to all major Lojban groups. 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From:= Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
Date:= Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] [lojban-announcements] The LLG/BPFK could u= se some helpers.
To: rlpo= well@digitalkingdom.org


I do a pretty decent job of keeping up on all the things being discuss= ed in the Lojban and Lojban-beginners lists, so I'd be willing to keep = you informed of things I feel are important that I see on those lists.
=A0
In fact, I have one thing that I think you ought to pass on to the Boa= rd already- that being your proposal on the restructuring of the BPFK. I pe= rsonally think it's a very good idea, especially as the more people the= re are working on the issues that need to be addressed, the less workload p= er-person, and the faster things get done.
=A0
(Also, as we've already seen from the current discussion regarding= the cultural gismu, holding discussions on such topics publicly, such as i= n the Lojban list, draws quite a lot of people's attention, positively,= and can come up with a viable solution rather quickly. (One of the good th= ings the open-source software has taught us. ;) ))

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Robin Lee Powel= l <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

FOLLOWUPS TO: me personally,= or the main list.

So, the community seems to be very, very active r= ight now. :) =A0So
I'm going to put a call out to see if any of you people are willing
= to do some actual *work* around here.

Things are so crazy I don'= t even know what we need, exactly, so I'd
really love it if people w= ho are willing to take on official Lojban
jobs would mail me personally for the sort of things they might want
to = do.

There's one thing I do *know* we need, though: a pulse-taker= .

All of the board members have extremely time-consuming personal lives, and all of us get overwhelmed by very large email threads.
For my= own part, I get so overwhelmed that I tend to ignore the main
list for = large swathes of time, and sometimes miss really important
things that w= ay.

I would *love* it if one-or-more people would step up to the task ofkeeping me (as LLG Secretary) informed as to what's actually going
= on in the Lojban community, be it on the mailing lists or IRC or web
forums or whatever. =A0I would love to have the time to do it myself,
bu= t I simply do not. =A0Sufficiently important things I would then
pass to= the members and/or board.

Let me know in private email if you'r= e interested.

-Robin

--
They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by t= he military as weapons."
And I'm =A0thinking: =A0"Does it = even occur to you to try for something
other =A0than =A0the default =A0o= utcome?" =A0See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http= ://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/

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