From 3dJu3SwoJBhMBD751v0A1Bz5t14.v75472ut6z77z4xzA7D8B.v75@groups.bounces.google.com Sat Apr 03 12:48:29 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f146.google.com ([209.85.222.146]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3dJu3SwoJBhMBD751v0A1Bz5t14.v75472ut6z77z4xzA7D8B.v75@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Ny9KS-0000bM-8o for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:28 -0700 Received: by pzk10 with SMTP id 10sf23109pzk.25 for ; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:message-id:date :from:to:reply-to:subject:in-reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url :x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=02vT9qyT+7roUXRi/q53ttWMxDKgx3d13nLS+kDIRns=; b=4nKRMYRcqAciPlzqrPjyuKOTE2KaM69CaVfBsIG3i1I4ABQNEaTgBhf83COcvfZYbA msLisOSlPmTHCFsXu2wEfLeKN2KLvNclD5uwrB3xI03jaZDnygpRHVO2+WLc8V3cMPr5 Lxa4DRT2ita0ieylJ7RfUdHKmGhfSIguZS1Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:to:reply-to:subject :in-reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Gncx7rGuF7WO3PiS4K4xCMLXAviHORnMimleYFYmJX59QWoh+tmx7U5eGBZQf/++B0 wuNdhyzYYBsiRo9ETpVpF+tqzFupk+JmR3pdQsvU9yFyezDsyEnVe4Z2fJ3+dzGs/mO/ agpC4/6lPYWpH+5yAYA6JWMkxFXP9uGL4mv2w= Received: by 10.142.249.35 with SMTP id w35mr89298wfh.23.1270324084101; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.23 with SMTP id 23ls672472wfb.3.p; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.129.7 with SMTP id g7mr402869wfn.27.1270324082574; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.129.7 with SMTP id g7mr402868wfn.27.1270324082545; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f44.google.com (mail-gw0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si2271473pzk.8.2010.04.03.12.48.01; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.44; Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so401360gwj.31 for ; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.1.36 with SMTP id 36mr4642101aga.24.1270324080669; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.palm.com ([173.152.177.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2499210yxb.61.2010.04.03.12.47.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4bb79b70.4801be0a.70c6.ffffb410@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:47:55 -0700 From: "Christopher Doty" To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: language codes was: So what do we say for Swedish? In-Reply-To: <6a01dfb4-598f-459d-a50b-e20cff30511c@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> X-Mailer: Palm webOS v1.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=suomichris@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: suomichris@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b7cc2efa3fc3ba64 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d7e65bb6b61f064f Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Alternative__boundary__1270324079296 --Alternative__boundary__1270324079296 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both .xorxes. and I have been using the 639-3, so that it would work for an= y language. Chris -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Apr 3, 2010 12:16, symuyn <rbysamppi@gmail.com> wrote:=20 Small questions: 1. For language fu'ivla, which part of ISO 639 is being used: 639-2 or 639-3? (I prefer 639-3, since it's basically the same as 639-2 except more robust.) 2. For country fu'ivla, why would using ISO 3166-2 (three-letter codes) be worse than 3166-1 (two-letter codes)? The three-letter codes: A. Resemble their autonyms more B. Are more future-robust C. Would have the same algorithm as the languages, except for the n/ g exception (I think). On Apr 3, 8:45 am, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllamb...@gmail.com> wrote= : > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Oren <get.o...@gmail.com> wrote= : > > can we have a pseudocode version of the algorithm, or something s= imilar? > > For countries: > > VV -> gugde'V'V > VC -> gugde'VCu > CV -> gugdeCu'V > CC -> gugdeCuCu > > Codes with "h", "q", "w", "y" use "xe", "ke", "ve", "je" instead of > "xu", "ku", "vu", "ju". > > For languages: > > VVV -> bangV'V'V > VVC -> bangV'V'Cu > VCV -> bangVCu'V > VCC -> bangVCuCu > > CVV -> banCu'V'V > CVC -> banCu'VCu > CCV -> banCuCu'V > CCC -> banCuCuCu > > special case: codes that start with "n" or "g": > > (n|g)VV -> baur(n|g)u'V'V > (n|g)VC -> baur(n|g)u'VCu > (n|g)CV -> baur(n|g)uCu'V > (n|g)CC -> baur(n|g)uCuCu > > mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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Chris

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On Apr 3, 2010 12:16, symuy= n <rbysamppi@gmail.com> wrote:

Small questions:

1. For language fu'ivla, which part of ISO 639 is being used: 639-2 or
639-3? (I prefer 639-3, since it's basically the same as 639-2 except
more robust.)

2. For country fu'ivla, why would using ISO 3166-2 (three-letter
codes) be worse than 3166-1 (two-letter codes)? The three-letter
codes:
A. Resemble their autonyms more
B. Are more future-robust
C. Would have the same algorithm as the languages, except for the n/
g exception (I think).

On Apr 3, 8:45 am, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllamb...@gmail.com> w= rote:
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Oren <get.o...@gmail.com> w= rote:
> > can we have a pseudocode version of the algorithm, or somethi= ng similar?
>
> For countries:
>
> VV -> gugde'V'V
> VC -> gugde'VCu
> CV -> gugdeCu'V
> CC -> gugdeCuCu
>
> Codes with "h", "q", "w", "y" use "xe", "ke", "ve", "je" instead o= f
> "xu", "ku", "vu", "ju".
>
> For languages:
>
> VVV -> bangV'V'V
> VVC -> bangV'V'Cu
> VCV -> bangVCu'V
> VCC -> bangVCuCu
>
> CVV -> banCu'V'V
> CVC -> banCu'VCu
> CCV -> banCuCu'V
> CCC -> banCuCuCu
>
> special case: codes that start with "n" or "g":
>
> (n|g)VV -> baur(n|g)u'V'V
> (n|g)VC -> baur(n|g)u'VCu
> (n|g)CV -> baur(n|g)uCu'V
> (n|g)CC -> baur(n|g)uCuCu
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes

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