From 3KtW0SwcJBgAeyeonusgmail.comlojbangooglegroups.com@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 01 10:18:10 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f160.google.com ([209.85.211.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3KtW0SwcJBgAeyeonusgmail.comlojbangooglegroups.com@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NxO1i-0003Z8-VC for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:18:08 -0700 Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32sf1498125ywh.28 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=khs9PngnYVJW4KbDY/k0KCPKidCCEMfNoX+PWfhxvQ8=; b=0RrtISRplmV7BpK2YOmVG0lP0uulT3cfaD0OjlUaPH0U7pVUTutTClt4R/jwRjLiFm /y7oE5PoBIA1QzoBWCPAyFWsN//72rVh4fKGpQHFL5IIzIqUOAEFXnxSyJVqxkAdz4Yj 8D3/8LKLytv5EOx81UkJDdK753PDD/ZwFUSPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=MCtGoJA6Wyo5c+ngjQxQvqVUOSnrl4cSf2g5a2Fin8/ne6lUm8LM9MjuU2qGDyrR+F HMLWNjALGBtdka1Ro0F+KTymYKLXrPhLjzrZnKqZqiN3Wy1YE4atIhFKWvRTbogfDWsZ R3lOO6ci9q6HbftktSSpp4D3poU5mkFhC4aY4= Received: by 10.91.121.20 with SMTP id y20mr199008agm.23.1270142250425; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.35.68 with SMTP id o4ls874270bkd.1.p; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.48.214 with SMTP id s22mr79976bkf.26.1270142246905; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.48.214 with SMTP id s22mr79975bkf.26.1270142246842; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f68.google.com (mail-ww0-f68.google.com [74.125.82.68]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a10si9388657bkc.1.2010.04.01.10.17.25; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.68 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.68; Received: by mail-ww0-f68.google.com with SMTP id 28so77770wwb.7 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.30.146 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201004011214.40699.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201003312350.52303.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201004011214.40699.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:17:25 -0600 Received: by 10.216.90.202 with SMTP id e52mr557244wef.150.1270142245558; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Summary: Cultural fu'ivla From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.68 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/6edf3f52e6f491ba X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/78f6f9553ff74bcb Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7ee575c6c7504833009f3 --0016e6d7ee575c6c7504833009f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, so, the terms in the various cultural gismu, and my lujvo suggestions for them, are: language - matybau - "m1/b1 corresponds to language of m2/b2 in aspect m3" culture - matklu - "m1/k1 corresponds to culture of m2/k1 in aspect m3" community - matce'u - "m1/c1 corresponds to community m2/c2 in aspect m3" religion - matyjda - "m1/l1 corresponds to religion of m2/l2 in aspect m3/l3" dialect (Australian) - skip it, use the language one. empire (Latin) - I believe a lujvo for this already exists ethos (Slavic) - skip it, use culture nationality - um.... geography - um.... On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday 01 April 2010 10:41:43 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > > > On Wednesday 31 March 2010 16:54:27 Christopher Doty wrote: > > >> Chechen (=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=85=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=B9=D0=BD =D0=BC=D0=BE=D1= =82=D1=82) tce'acu (che/cau) > > > > > > There's one code that's not based on the autonym. I say "noxcino". > > > > I would be in favor of removing "xc" from the list of forbidden > > clusters (but then I would give priority to "mz", "ntc", "nts", "ndz", > > "ndj"). > > "noxtino", then. > > Pierre > -- > La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. > Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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Okay, so, the terms in the various cultural gismu, and my lujvo sugges= tions for them, are:
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language - matybau - "m1/b1 corresponds to language of=C2=A0m2/b2= in aspect m3"
culture - matklu - "m1/k1 corresponds to culture of m2/k1 in aspe= ct m3"
community - matce'u - "m1/c1 corresponds to community m2/c2 i= n aspect m3"
religion - matyjda - "m1/l1 corresponds to religion of m2/l2 in a= spect m3/l3"
dialect (Australian) - skip it, use the language one.
empire (Latin) - I believe a lujvo for this already exists
ethos (Slavic) - skip it, use culture
nationality - um....
geogr= aphy - um....
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.n= u> wrote:
On Thursday 01 April 2010 10:41:43 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wr= ote:
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > On= Wednesday 31 March 2010 16:54:27 Christopher Doty wrote:
> >> Chechen (=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=85=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=B9=D0=BD =D0=BC=D0= =BE=D1=82=D1=82) tce'acu (che/cau)
> >
> > There'= s one code that's not based on the autonym. I say "noxcino".<= br>>
> I would be in favor of removing "xc" from the lis= t of forbidden
> clusters (but then I would give priority to "mz", "ntc&= quot;, "nts", "ndz",
> "ndj").

<= /div>"noxtino", then.

Pierre
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La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est pl= us que dans le sang.

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