From 3q126SwwJBg81p88.1p88p62v1px0.r3103yqp2v33v0tv63947.r31@groups.bounces.google.com Mon Apr 05 15:01:43 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f144.google.com ([209.85.210.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3q126SwwJBg81p88.1p88p62v1px0.r3103yqp2v33v0tv63947.r31@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NyuMT-0004K4-GE for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:42 -0700 Received: by yxe8 with SMTP id 8sf1100140yxe.25 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vtJgz94MXIL1G+iLTqSqvBHnvdTapjo7638NlyTWvPs=; b=0FJVj7c0ymwNJVp2MNgc0fT7IV42skSsQLn6n6CKPsr+EAAk4Ly2jR6xNbM6AAL//n Zh6SMa7vGz6SFFeNPDmgGinqGldTYbm9Akj1tRXM3Hgr0Wfe6TtehfR3kdnltzReSoHv W5YcO/Aj9U0R0oheQOQE+ZG1ARLLqlXGORx3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=3MjRQOk/npbTGDZ2dCeXNbpSutlPJ2h7aWNjXXbyOdoEtE8ubPPbbohWDj/hDhytFd c9dFL6SdWR4fVKEnQvD5NZM2oDst0NpuN3GzXWpvaeWQ0Z5bHcS6aXFbAPd0JC4VMmp2 5va+E24ld3uId7i3/78Lg04KG2lAbiOL/t8KQ= Received: by 10.151.19.4 with SMTP id w4mr238600ybi.4.1270504876003; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.91.6 with SMTP id t6ls904528agl.0.p; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.131.19 with SMTP id e19mr3255947agd.6.1270504874794; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.131.19 with SMTP id e19mr3255944agd.6.1270504874731; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f48.google.com (mail-gw0-f48.google.com [74.125.83.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si1076892gxk.10.2010.04.05.15.01.13; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.48; Received: by gwaa12 with SMTP id a12so1886569gwa.35 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.196.12 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:01:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:01:13 -0400 Received: by 10.150.14.2 with SMTP id 2mr1826499ybn.12.1270504873438; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. From: Matt Arnold To: lojban X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of matt.mattarn@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=matt.mattarn@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/e311189d4800ec Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I disagree with the survey statement. I agree with your essay in its entirety. Thank you so much for it. -Eppcott On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > FOLLOWUPS TO: The main list. > > OK, been promising it for a while; here it is. > > http://teddyb.org/robin/tiki-index.php?page=3DLojban%3A+You're+Doing+It+W= rong > > There are all *sorts* of finicky details we could discuss, but right > now I and others would very much just like to get a sense of where > the community stands on these sorts of issues, so, if we could > *please* keep the discussion for now (1) on the main list and (2) > agree/disagree answer to the following question, after you've read > (as much as you wish to) of the essay: > > =A0I would like Lojban to remain as close as it possibly can to its > =A0current state, regardless of whether I or a group of experienced > =A0Lojbanists see that improvements could be made. > > Agree or disagree? > > Thanks. > > -Robin > > -- > They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm =A0thinking: =A0"Does it even occur to you to try for something > other =A0than =A0the default =A0outcome?" =A0See http://shrunklink.com/cd= iz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > -- > The mail came from the "Lojban Announcements" Google Group. =A0You are pr= obably not subscribed to that group directly. =A0All mails to this group ar= e forwarded to all major Lojban groups. =A0See http://www.lojban.org/tiki/L= ojbanic+Forums for details about what this list is for, including how to co= ntact the management. > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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