From 3Zre6SwgJBiQGET.ORENGMAIL.COMLOJBANGOOGLEGROUPS.COM@groups.bounces.google.com Mon Apr 05 21:24:33 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f139.google.com ([209.85.222.139]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3Zre6SwgJBiQGET.ORENGMAIL.COMLOJBANGOOGLEGROUPS.COM@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nz0Kw-0004CO-QI for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:33 -0700 Received: by pzk3 with SMTP id 3sf59420pzk.28 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=hWXkvgAlsI2dN5JrfSU0lfnkSsgBEZ7k/aFXfhYqMeE=; b=jI4wR6dp0zGCc61tDPPGnbKuGy4MOzq0jY021y6EbR5lDja7wb83Adtnq9//kcXw7T HfHyM0JZnlNLeMjA5pQ8q3AiIKPwEQ6gC9EOjRig0W2cp7Fw32b43Dszvm0VhawnbMYc 05WU11iD+itUhnSu3QLI00SejaUZ7x7U114AI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=BcjD7AmzwObBX/AJFYxuC0wYRY4OXFg1QQBW/omxlAV2LA+LfmP9TmJC4fOVxJcrLL K3Ps1iqnquDbTjaelortdzxzhrlnoHL7HAlkdvXbcDvx5JmRXa9zH1P5DiJZB0Q3mfMD /HLKSvCt5Z7Gkm6cNjhnL1ouU2JtZMi/rkNtw= Received: by 10.142.248.3 with SMTP id v3mr188800wfh.20.1270527846042; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.152.26 with SMTP id z26ls1061672wfd.1.p; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr1063131wfh.15.1270527845260; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr1063130wfh.15.1270527845216; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si543852pzk.3.2010.04.05.21.24.04; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.53; Received: by pwj10 with SMTP id 10so3186937pwj.40 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.109.10 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:23:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Oren Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:23:44 +0800 Received: by 10.142.248.1 with SMTP id v1mr2312134wfh.107.1270527844143; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The proposed 'goals' of lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/8c345f62e9f946ce X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/76d0d9e6972efdc7 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think we need to make one more addition, top priority - 'freedom of expression' 0.1 maximize the stuff we can say (testing the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis) ...without which the only optimal solution to our ordered constraints is {} co'o mi'e korbi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.