From 3oPa6Sw0JBp0MEFIFM.KBTQLKDJ7FI.9LJILG87KDLLDIBDOLRMP.9LJ@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Apr 06 01:54:21 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3oPa6Sw0JBp0MEFIFM.KBTQLKDJ7FI.9LJILG87KDLLDIBDOLRMP.9LJ@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nz4Y3-0003dY-SL for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:54:21 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf4375702gyd.16 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:54:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Rmy9Mki1eSE5r1OklEBu9xm/iy1Cf1+SDl+rbmQ9Ys=; b=pm2hZqFGWE7wY6+94sG9+/JDO8tQSeYorkzqQF+YEdmMotcvvzeoI3zce1l8tW8MY/ iROrKH7fs3E7k47e4TmJVe+nyzDgMB9VBnv67VItC7bcBEN7lno74KrhZ8xyWKkGLu5e O/uCbp3AoDgMPCU0tWttCnTa3FlT8rqcJdpg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=r9BlyOMd1EVWRHCNAv/MOvZLN6PRkOirq/1JBMOtyKMUm92ACA/lnhFeIaM7zX7nWs ta+uV0gl4zCmz0plOB39wHpnuDOt4xHXraVtl/RAm89alj5Kr0Ee8gF/u6FiETc2oLBE 4Hmn1MeyNAHfguMGbxBoJa4vvvcwzZ1uP6lvs= Received: by 10.101.128.18 with SMTP id f18mr169877ann.18.1270544033349; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.87.8.39 with SMTP id l39ls332183fgi.2.p; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.87.48.38 with SMTP id a38mr382577fgk.20.1270544030867; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.203 with SMTP id w11mr398509bkx.12.1270543457648; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.203 with SMTP id w11mr398507bkx.12.1270543457580; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 11si933828bwz.10.2010.04.06.01.44.16; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.222 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.218.222; Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so3749802bwz.25 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:44:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.118.129 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:38:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> From: Philip Newton Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:38:48 +0200 Received: by 10.204.151.71 with SMTP id b7mr8138918bkw.114.1270543456061; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=philip.newton@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: philip.newton@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/7e8291e438c589ac Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 23:02, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > =A0I would like Lojban to remain as close as it possibly can to its > =A0current state, regardless of whether I or a group of experienced > =A0Lojbanists see that improvements could be made. > > Agree or disagree? Disagree. And I found the essays's argument that "nobody really wants to let usage decide" extremely compelling; I would also much rather have a formalised definition, compiled by people with some experience (though influenced by past usage). Cheers, Philip --=20 Philip Newton --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.