From 3Xju8SwkOBqEKCPUJKMBOHPPHMFNBJM.DPNMPKCBOHPPHMFHSPVQT.DPN@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Apr 07 00:59:52 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3Xju8SwkOBqEKCPUJKMBOHPPHMFNBJM.DPNMPKCBOHPPHMFHSPVQT.DPN@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzQAt-0002Tt-C0 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:51 -0700 Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21sf165653gwj.16 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:date :in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:received :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ivg7HlJtvLcarjG34kt7RxL385MWTE3bFFwLpx69Mag=; b=wHtVbLgygHnFJ+z4D2PG59GSguW8wT/u/yiRB5pinoWSldJBuGW7c4GNv9b4T4vjQb onugfNwc5wn7dj0j9vs3s/HiYYORfEUb8apcj4amk6obI9vRm0yztuhrmmKZ4uPP5LFm M0CDz2rxeSev7w9CJMfP3b4n1eN/+khCnlQx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p17tRu7zvAzeCNawV4mHRl5MRgwQrBEA8zE5uCrt6muxEIuGySsUgbZVIiO/uO3A8B JS1Ejt7/GqC109/DgWN4FH7cuTSwNo7lzwtY8TYZqNiiCR8pEo2AzWZNkY7EUi2NaM6m wjW1MpWbYNI5NrlkqDCE473MCSJMi7E/tgHis= Received: by 10.101.139.31 with SMTP id r31mr209388ann.35.1270627166554; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.91.8 with SMTP id t8ls1087088agl.2.p; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.49.14 with SMTP id b14mr5910783agk.14.1270627165147; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.49.14 with SMTP id b14mr5910779agk.14.1270627164924; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f191.google.com (mail-gy0-f191.google.com [209.85.160.191]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si264202yxe.13.2010.04.07.00.59.24; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jbotijlan@googlemail.com designates 209.85.160.191 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.191; Received: by mail-gy0-f191.google.com with SMTP id 4so311872gyh.28 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 94.195.20.70 References: <00c09f76ad870c0d9e04839b81ae@google.com> <20100407052802.GI21843@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/532.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/4.1.249.1045 Safari/532.5,gzip(gfe) Received: by 10.100.244.5 with SMTP id r5mr214195anh.32.1270627164868; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: Tangent: Is there a better grammar? From: tijlan To: lojban X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jbotijlan@googlemail.com designates 209.85.160.191 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jbotijlan@googlemail.com X-Original-Sender: jbotijlan@googlemail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/6d4e31b897cbe4b1 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/b0836e22e9474198 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 7, 7:47=A0am, Oren wrote: > the author > claims length is "comparable to english" where I always thought that lojb= an > was briefer than English. Sometimes it's briefer: I think that what you are about to see is the single most painful thing that can happen to a man. pe'i lo pu'o selvi'a be do cu pamei traji seldu'u lo'e remna Sometimes it isn't: The man I had asked paid the kid =A3175 to buy Wii. le nanmu poi mi fi ke'a pupu cpedu cu pu dunda fi le verba fe lo ru'urgubupo be li pazemu tezu'e lo nu vy te vecnu la'o gy Wii gy mu'o mi'e tijlan --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.