From 3y7m8SwYHBo0168vzu3rt.t53250sr4x55x2vx85B69.t53@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Apr 07 10:00:05 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f198.google.com ([209.85.217.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3y7m8SwYHBo0168vzu3rt.t53250sr4x55x2vx85B69.t53@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzYbY-000575-2S for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:00:04 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf685002gxk.4 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:x-originating-ip:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=K6ugewE/wAPMlcGUXxSQEp5FyH2WjbWGdI+0FNxk9LY=; b=XjWpGT9cucUaWNrPgt83xUNR9Q8p+JiY76nTYfZMm7wzYbYAUvaFBK6/wM3goyDEL0 t0evvBtkmZInhp+vISnY8okPA13aqZqIl/kPSxenVM2gtG9S51YC2lBA7PIYQUPIuVgu aFspY9rh80TnaJQNPN9P3mn9zZaxjFMm6ytiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-originating-ip:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=C8NrOAv7GaRycfEC0SSWP13526Xd0oBEwabYtKiMjxD5iygJG4tE4hkABN6uiux5Rw +W41z9rQySQ7GHPsvEkDaVPR38zmJSwwDrLlM4sAFyuVZTNdtnW8bK608oaYr0GLLsnU 4hGBgSR20uTtTJAGi2CZuj5hPwRuZZZLiXRSU= Received: by 10.91.93.10 with SMTP id v10mr745245agl.48.1270659531474; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:58:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.204.223 with SMTP id fn31ls1333682ibb.1.p; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.60.17 with SMTP id n17mr584871ibh.28.1270659528065; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.60.17 with SMTP id n17mr584870ibh.28.1270659528041; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kcout01.prserv.net (kcout01.prserv.net [12.154.55.31]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si2141132iwn.12.2010.04.07.09.58.47; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning kpreid@mac.com does not designate 12.154.55.31 as permitted sender) client-ip=12.154.55.31; Received: from [ipv6:::1] (linode.feoh.org[97.107.129.138]) by prserv.net (kcout01) with SMTP id <2010040716584720100hvp8ve> (Authid: usinet.kpreid); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:58:47 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [97.107.129.138] Message-Id: From: Kevin Reid To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <20100407163712.GA11541@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Massive irony (Everson, please read) (was Re: [lojban] BPFK Announcement: Orthography) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:58:44 -0400 References: <20100401165252.GK6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407060016.GB9239@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407163712.GA11541@digitalkingdom.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning kpreid@mac.com does not designate 12.154.55.31 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kpreid@mac.com X-Original-Sender: kpreid@mac.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/11b07957f4e1e945 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/689ac43842df86dd Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:37, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> Remember, in the "standard typography" version "." and "I" are >> unrelated. The glottal/pause is inherent in initial vowels and >> words following "la"; the full stop is just the sentence-ending >> blort. > > No, it isn't; the "." is there *because of the "i". They are, > conceptually, directly attached to each other, so they should be > visually attached too. If there was no "i", there would be no ".". > > Lojban does not require a full stop (if that's linguistically > different than a pause, which it seems to be?) anywhere, including > at the end of sentences. I think by "standard typography" Everson meant "standard Latin" not "standard Lojban". -- Kevin Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.