From 33bu8SwgSBqESMQPXFMMEJHJUBMLJOHEPN.PSHMPKCBOHPPHMFHSPVQT.DPN@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Apr 07 10:08:08 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f139.google.com ([209.85.222.139]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <33bu8SwgSBqESMQPXFMMEJHJUBMLJOHEPN.PSHMPKCBOHPPHMFHSPVQT.DPN@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzYjR-0006Ff-OX for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:08:07 -0700 Received: by pzk3 with SMTP id 3sf341385pzk.28 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:07:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=nqOQjx5FXcMhYHinbDBrhY6ysGAqGlI7PRv65ved4A8=; b=2NLFoto3f6w6PoigiArwODVQU0AV4RkVDzX6ad473el6BdchSbxb0+8IjeEY8LC424 ha3+knaZSh9ckPvUqzrg6eeJT6nFsTtD7m7axDoT/stvw6sXs3cRyAAfJMF5SNinktbq UgbG5xPCwt/rYGspT+UXn20jOjPADxdgZyMck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=Yhd7VQJZcAoAs9/hU07vHchNPKnk78KVUnRqrwCnTL6q+qsWFHHp9tsorqN9F+D5WG XeFwsfw1yxQ4fhPBsV5dERl8TTksMlLqxz+s/wvAVH+APSllRT/F5YPGCWhv6+R1EFWg yD2D2nkSyZwRNI1sUupnSgSyKzvfWSFFRyNGI= Received: by 10.141.4.8 with SMTP id g8mr591709rvi.22.1270660061306; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:07:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.53.13 with SMTP id f13ls882867rvk.3.p; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.37 with SMTP id g37mr1435911rvb.26.1270660059937; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.37 with SMTP id g37mr1435910rvb.26.1270660059909; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si3104665pzk.6.2010.04.07.10.07.39; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.3; Received: (qmail 19317 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 17:07:27 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2010 17:07:27 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NzYis-0006Ep-9O for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:07:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:07:26 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Massive irony (Everson, please read) (was Re: [lojban] BPFK Announcement: Orthography) Message-ID: <20100407170726.GF11541@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100401165252.GK6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407060016.GB9239@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407163712.GA11541@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/11b07957f4e1e945 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/fe5be47a27f0acac Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 12:58:44PM -0400, Kevin Reid wrote: > On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:37, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >>Remember, in the "standard typography" version "." and "I" are > >>unrelated. The glottal/pause is inherent in initial vowels and > >>words following "la"; the full stop is just the sentence-ending > >>blort. > > > >No, it isn't; the "." is there *because of the "i". They are, > >conceptually, directly attached to each other, so they should be > >visually attached too. If there was no "i", there would be no > >".". > > > >Lojban does not require a full stop (if that's linguistically > >different than a pause, which it seems to be?) anywhere, > >including at the end of sentences. > > > I think by "standard typography" Everson meant "standard Latin" > not "standard Lojban". Oh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0 -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.