From 3ob68SwoJBmgYaUSOINXOYMSGOR.IUSRUPHGTMUUMRKMXUaVY.IUS@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Apr 07 10:19:55 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3ob68SwoJBmgYaUSOINXOYMSGOR.IUSRUPHGTMUUMRKMXUaVY.IUS@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzYus-0006zG-1l for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:55 -0700 Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21sf421065gwj.16 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=INuP/cYIPYPerxD49ADl3esw8moSp9vgEwe1MlOfD/0=; b=2Pkdzz5Wt2mZLdacYXlLqEo0jZu/oZ6OZFYoVUwnOoekEMiGM/9Nps2TchzKAua8mZ x3aCLmHfU+1UKuQCWrlkVHj8en2yCax7usLM+6Z5+gBNw3vBy0H58I2Oc+7Rr8JFr8dH PaTC8DnOCXYjYz5j6CoXftt39bw3Qzw+HCUHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=HxCRg78TTiLWA0eI5hAeKLwr0ArP9zMnMVpqJj5qxgSU5tPnFlRBMjU1uOYEXnFDwl +SZqx3gqFSFRFGCv+2Qg+5D9QvR5+fI0b52tKNR4mD7JWXEPlINM3oVUp47y532irMSN H9Vow3b4tHataWHQbcmuYeKBTcBvYgSSm8vvU= Received: by 10.101.64.5 with SMTP id r5mr128915ank.12.1270660769202; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.203.14 with SMTP id f14ls1381579anq.0.p; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.179.37 with SMTP id g37mr4509183anp.17.1270660767553; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.179.37 with SMTP id g37mr4509182anp.17.1270660767342; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f173.google.com (mail-yw0-f173.google.com [209.85.211.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si753150yxe.8.2010.04.07.10.19.26; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 209.85.211.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.211.173; Received: by ywh3 with SMTP id 3so634304ywh.31 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.5.20 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:19:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100407164905.GC11541@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100401165252.GK6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407060016.GB9239@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407163712.GA11541@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407164905.GC11541@digitalkingdom.org> From: Christopher Doty Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:19:05 -0700 Received: by 10.101.170.12 with SMTP id x12mr19513517ano.236.1270660765512; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Massive irony (Everson, please read) (was Re: [lojban] BPFK Announcement: Orthography) To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 209.85.211.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=suomichris@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: suomichris@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/11b07957f4e1e945 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/c9ec0610c7a19bef Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e2e0f8fd2110483a8c398 --0016368e2e0f8fd2110483a8c398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 09:49, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > What did I say that was different than that? > > All vowel-initial words in Lojban are required to start with a > pause, which is often rendered as a glottal stop. It is not > *required* in writing, but it is generally considered good style in > writing for publication and such. Everson appeared to be asserting > that the "." in ".i" was a sentence-ending pause, which simply isn't > correct. > > -Robin Oh, I think I misunderstood/misread, and thought you were using "full stop" to refer to a glottal stop, rather than the orthographic form. You just meant that the writing of the full stop was optional? Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016368e2e0f8fd2110483a8c398 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 09:49, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>= ; wrote:
What did I say that was different than that?

All vowel-initial words in Lojban are required to start with a
pause, which is often rendered as a glottal stop. =A0It is not
*required* in writing, but it is generally considered good style in
writing for publication and such. =A0Everson appeared to be asserting
that the "." in ".i" was a sentence-ending pause, which= simply isn't
correct.

-Robin

Oh, I think I misunderstood/m= isread, and thought you were using "full stop" to refer to a glot= tal stop, rather than the orthographic form. You just meant that the writin= g of the full stop was optional?

Chris

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