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From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/20a4249d14002003 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 29 Mar 2010, at 21:08, Michael Turniansky wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Michael Everson >> > > Defined by whom? For what purpose? What actual *utility* is there is not = being able to identify structures at a glance? What *benefit* is there to "= la alis" over "la Alis"? Since the spec outlines the potential use of quota= tion marks and exclamation and question marks (which it DOES) why does an e= xploration of the application of traditional Latin typography attract so mu= ch grumbling? Did you know that Loglan cases, by the way? > I am, indeed. I learned Loglan back in 1975. Nor would I mind cases in lojban, except for the fact that it explicitly defines exactly what capitals are to be used fro when using the Latin alphabet system, and what they mean. Had it not specified it (like it doesn't do with parentheses, quotation marks, digits, etc.) I might be more flexible on that point. --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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